[s-cars] Smoking is hazardous to my sanity

Walsh, Edward edward.walsh at agedwards.com
Fri Oct 11 11:03:26 EDT 2002


Thanks Bjorn.

The smoke does stop (almost) immediately after startup (less than 30
seconds).  Once its gone, it is gone for good.  Also, Paul mentioned Valve
seals.  I don't think its the seals because, from what I have read, the car
should start smoking after a long downhill descent (causing a high vacuum
situation).  It does not.  I still don't think its a HG because I have
driven about 2,000 miles this way with no coolant or oil loss.  Plus, the
car runs perfectly.

General surfing of the internet keeps pointing to white smoke plumes as a
sign of a bad turbo....

This is why I am going looney!

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Bjørn Ødegård [mailto:beernuts at online.no]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:07 AM
To: Walsh, Edward; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Smoking is hazardous to my sanity


More smoke in cold weather=coolant leak. Simple math.. Even if you don't
have any measurable loss of coolant, the signs are unmistakable.
I'm just a bit confused about you not smelling any coolant in the fumes,
but you might have the red coolant stuff? (I don't know what that smells
like.. Anyone?)
Excessive fuel (at least the amount that makes any smoke!) will be dark
gray to black, and you will make a smoke trace. (or it will at least
hang in the air for some time..)
Sad to say, but you have a leaking gasket somewhere, probably the
headgasket. A crack is also possible, (haven't I read about that
previously here??) and that will certainly behave just like you describe
it. I'd get one of those moisture measuring thingys that will replace
the spark plug, and check one cyl after another for moisture. (You'll
have to let the car stay for at least two days for each cylinder.)
I don't think the turbo is leaking, cause then the smoke would stop
immediately after startup.

Just my .02c..

Bjorn  :o)
'92 S4  Ahh.. Defa Warm-up is pretty nice! :o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Walsh, Edward" <edward.walsh at agedwards.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: [s-cars] Smoking is hazardous to my sanity


> Greetings my smoke free S friends,
>
> The saga continues..........
>
> A little more information about my car's desire to emit a lovely plume
of
> smoke after it has sat for a couple hours...If you don't recall, it
smokes
> only on startup for about 30 seconds.  Driving the car ends the smoke.
> There is no (measurable) coolant or oil consumption.  No oil in
> coolant/coolant in oil. Boost/vac are strong.  Idle is smooth.  Car is
> otherwise perfect. The smoke is most likely fuel related, though its
not
> black, it is whitish/gray.   I drove behind a Crown Victoria POS the
other
> day and THAT was burning oil.  My car's smoke doesn't smell like
burning
> oil, more like a strong NoX/Co2
>
> New data!  Now that it is cooler in N.E., I am getting (a lot) more
smoke in
> the morning.  This seems to correspond inversely to the very low
levels of
> smoke when it was 95+ degrees out over the summer... One could surmise
that
> it is something to do with the cold start/enrichment system, but I
throw no
> codes?  Leaky injector (still need to test that)?.  OTOH, if it is
oil, it
> is not "burnt" oil, which was a very distinct and recognizable smell.
My
> leading suspect for any oil intrusion is the valve guide seals.
Anyone know
> how to test these for leakage?
>
> Any other tips/thoughts?  Anyone have a spare ECU so I can eliminate
the
> recent MTM 1+ as the culprit?
>
> Thanks a bunch,
>
> Ed "living in a Cheech and Chong state of mind" Walsh
>
>
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