[s-cars] Need time for S4, help me fix my 200!

Kirby Smith kirby.a.smith at verizon.net
Sun Sep 29 11:23:01 EDT 2002


Your car uses a fuel distributor, not an electonic MAF, I presume.
Extrapolating from my 90q, have you checked the mass air flow float
mechanism for no binding?  Is the octopus hose free of leaks, especially
underneath where the crankcase ventillation connects in?

kirby, with 95 S6 and 2 x 90q, but no 200.

Rich Assarabowski wrote:
>
> Not strictly S-car related, but the sooner I fix this one the more time
> I'll have for the S4!
>
> My 1990 200q suddently started running poorly.  Engine runs fine when
> cold for about the first minute, then idle becomes very rough, stumbles
> at the slightest application of the throttle and has very little power,
> car is barely driveable.
>
> Since my fuel pump had been very noisy and was due for replacement
> anyway, I put in a new pump with no improvement.
>
> I have done the following so far:
>
> -- System pressure, control pressure and residual pressure all within
> spec (engine hot or cold)
> -- No fault codes (reads 4444)
> -- All solenoids click when running output checks (O2 sensor freq valve,
> wastegate freq valve, cold start valve, carbon canister freq valve,
> carbon canister on/off valve)
> -- Plug wire and rotor resistances all OK, swapped each plug wire
> individually with a known good wire, no difference, plug wires are
> relatively new
> -- Replaced plugs with another set, no difference
> -- Engine compression good (140-145 psi), hot or cold
> -- Removed injectors and checked for pattern (engine cold), looked good,
> no leakage
> -- Replaced injector O-ring and tip O-ring in each injector
> -- Checked cold start valve, pattern good, no leakage
> -- Idle stabilization valve clean, opens and closes fine with 12V
> applied
> -- Michelin Man hose recently replaced
> -- Throttle switch recently replaced, was adjusted properly and worked
> fine
> -- Checked all vacuum hoses, all appear OK (but you never know!), found
> deteriorated WG to intake manifold hose, replaced it but no improvement.
> All other hoses appear in good shape, some have been replaced in the
> last couple of years.
> -- Disconnected O2 sensor (to run open loop?), no improvement
>
> I'm somewhat stumped right now on what to do next, any thoughts?  I'm
> continuing to look for a vacuum leak, especially in the deceleration
> valve area, which is very hard to get to.  Could some of the sensors be
> bad even though no fault codes are displayed?  Any particular areas
> prone to vacuum leaks?  Would the fuel distributor be bad even if system
> pressures are OK?
>
> -- Rich A.
>   '90 200q
>   '93 S4
>   '83 Coupe GT
>
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