[s-cars] VW Side Mirrors

[Edward]

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Got a VW as a loaner from the dealer while they were installing a new drive=
shaft in my car. Mirror on the driver's side is about 40% smaller  (narrowe=
r?  side to side span) than the passenger's.  Just like in the UrS6, but re=
versed. Go figure! Wonder if this is VW engineers commentary on the S6 ergo=
nomics. Edward

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Today's Topics:

1=2E RE: Wheel Refinishing in Colorado? (Ron Kirkham)
2=2E RE: UrS4 wheels for sale (Scott Munger)
3=2E Joey's getting ANGRY!!! (Joseph Pizzimenti)
4=2E RE: RS2 MAF meter (Robert Pastore)
5=2E RS2 MAF deliberations (TODD KRAMER)
6=2E Tampa, FL S-List meeting tonight (CyberPoet)
7=2E Re: S-CAR-List digest, Vol 1 #1301 - 10 msgs (Erics Mail)
8=2E Re: Joey's getting ANGRY!!! (Brett Dikeman)
9=2E Re: RS2 MAF meter (Charlie Smith)
10. RE: pedal covers (mlp qwest)
11. Re: pedal covers (Mark Strangways)
12. RE: Wheel Refinishing in Colorado? (Lee Levitt)

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Message: 1
From: "Ron Kirkham"
To: "'Miller, Casey'" ,

Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wheel Refinishing in Colorado?
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:05:40 -0600

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Casey,

I had a set of stock S4 rims redone by Spec. Wheels of America in Commerce
City last fall. Can't seem to locate their card, but I found them in the
Yellow pages. Two of mine had small (2") cracks on the inside of the rim
and they all had bad pitting and clear coat peel. They did a really good
job. As they described to me, they media blast, straighten and in my case
fix the cracks then re-finish (not necessarily in that order?) and clear
coat. Look like brand new. I was very impressed. Like I said, can't find
my info, but I do remember that it was under $500 for the work and return
shipping to me in Summit County. I dropped them in person just to check out
the place.

HTH. No affiliation, just happy with the results.

Ron Kirkham
'93 S4 with shiny summer rims to put on...in another month!

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Subject: [s-cars] Wheel Refinishing in Colorado?


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Hi all,
Last summer I did quite a number on the face of one of my 17" avus. Now
that I'm ready to put my summer wheels on once again...has anyone had a
good experience with a colorado wheel refinisher? I'm hoping for a
quality job at a reasonable price.
TIA for the help,
Casey--Denver
'92 urS4 Black/Ecru

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Message: 2
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From: "Scott Munger"
To: , "'S-Cars'"
Cc: "'Qlist'"
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrS4 wheels for sale
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 14:20:00 -0700

What is the going rate for a set of 4 in Used/Good/Excellent condition?

--Scott Munger
'93 S4
'97 Cabriolet



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> [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Lee Levitt
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 3:29 AM
> To: S-Cars
> Cc: Qlist
> Subject: [s-cars] UrS4 wheels for sale
>
>
> Set of 4 UrS4 wheels for sale - 16x8 with center caps.
>
> Typical cosmetic problems - the clear coat is peeling away
> around the rims,
> but the wheels are sound. Could be refinished or used for
> track wheels.
>
> Available for pickup in Boston, or I'll ship.
>
> Let me know if you're interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lee
> '95.5 S6 avant
> '96 A6 quattro avant
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph Pizzimenti

To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] Joey's getting ANGRY!!!

Guys,
As you may be aware, I've been chasing down this ***
****** hydraulic issue for the past year with NO help.
So far, I've wasted my money on:

New PS pump
New Steering Rack
New Bomb
New High Pressure Hose from pump---->bomb
New HP hose from pump----->rack
Among other things I won't get into right now...

What I get is after a good brake, when I release brake
pedal, I get mooing sound like SOMETHING (pump, bomb,
brake MC, etc.) is sucking air. I get the vibration
through the steering wheel and some through the brake
pedal, but it's hard to tell because as soon as I put
more brake pressure on, the sound goes away, but
sometimes comes back. It will also go away if I
swerve around (charging the pump back up again?)

I topped off with pentosin the other day, was a teeny
bit low, but I got under the car and I'm seeping fluid
out of (yup, that pump->bomb hose I spent too much
money on)

It's only seeping out of the bottom, which leads me to
believe it might be the banjo bolt/o ring. Can anyone
help? Will send beer and this is the only thing
keeping me from really enjoying the car at this point.
What's the point of having big reds if you're scared
to use em?

Thanks,
Joe
'94 S4

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Message: 4
From: Robert Pastore
To: 'Charlie Smith'
Cc: "'s-car-list at audifans.com'"
Subject: RE: [s-cars] RS2 MAF meter
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:20:58 -0400

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O2 sensor only comes into play closed loop. WOT ( when all the fun SHOULD
start) is open loop, no help from the 02 sensor. WOT is also when you build
boost -- do you really want to risk a mixture that is less than ideal with
20+ lbs of boost?
Bob

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From: Charlie Smith [mailto:charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:30 PM
To: mlped at qwest.net
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS2 MAF meter


Earlier, mlp qwest wrote:
>
> No. You can swap parts, but they don't always run well together. Ditto
the
> screen / no screens issue. I believe opinions on the list have varied as
to
> whether the those trying the mod have noticed an improvement, or not.

You guys have to remember that the O2 sensor system is in action here.
Even if your MAF is off calibration for the values in your ECU, you
will sort of limp along. Because when you get to a steady state with
the go-fast pedal, the O2 system will put the mixture where it want's
it to be.

You may have stumbles or flat spots getting to steady state, because
the basic mixture is being set wrong by the ECU because it is getting
invalid signals from the MAF. Same is true with different injectors
or when you've been fiddling with the fuel pressure.

- Charlie


Charlie Smith charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418
http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA
http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info

95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features
97 Dodge Ram - 35 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel



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Message: 5
From: "TODD KRAMER"
To:
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:10:59 -0600
Subject: [s-cars] RS2 MAF deliberations

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Fellow S-listers, my experience:

Test Mule:
1995 S6:

RS2 Turbo K26hot/K27cold,
RS2 Exhaust Cam
RS2 Injectors
RS2 FPR
RS2 MAF

Lehman RS2 Software
2=3D2E5 Bar Boost MAP

During my build, I came across an RS2 MAF at a good price and put it on my =
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ride before I upgraded to RS2 Fuel Injectors and Fuel Pressure Regulator (f=
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uel delivery "set"). My A/F meter ran really rich under overboost but buck=
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ed and hiccupped as if the O2 sensor and the MAF were playing tug of war wi=
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th the mix. My diagnosis, the MAF is metered for the proper injector regul=
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ated by the proper FPR. Once those parts were upgraded, the car ran as exp=
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ected.

To test my theory, because of this thread, I swapped my old MAF into the RS=
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2 setup and found the car ran lean . once again, the MAF was not calibrated=
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for the injector/FPR setup.

More air gets more fuel until the O2 sensor does not like what it is tastin=
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g . then the ECU tries its best to keep the damn thing from blowing itself =
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up.The electronic signals from the MAF are paired to the flow rates of the =
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associated injectors the ECU is expecting.

So . without boring the audience with measurements of wire diameter or plas=
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tic thickness processes, my recommendation is upgrade the fuel delivery sys=
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tem as a set (MAF, Injectors, FPR).

.and all because I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express and chose to check my em=
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ail.

Todd Kramer
Salt Lake City (5700 feet)

1995 S6
1995 Cabriolet


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:22:13 -0400
From: CyberPoet
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] Tampa, FL S-List meeting tonight

OK, the odds are that no one other than two of us who are already
meeting tonight will be here, but I figure I'll open the invite up.
Dave flew down from Ohio unexpectedly this morning and dropped me a
call saying he was in town and did I want to shoot the breeze late this
evening... So, if any other listers are in/around Tampa and want to
join us (we're meeting at 10 pm -- tonight [Thursday night]), page me
at (813) 969-9800 and I'll get you directions. USF area Hops...

Cheers!
=3D-=3D Marc Glasgow


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Message: 7
From: "Erics Mail"
To: ,
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:38:59 -0700
Subject: [s-cars] Re: S-CAR-List digest, Vol 1 #1301 - 10 msgs

Bob,
I for one wish you the best. I know how hard it is to juggle a 'Hobby' like
you had and actually get time for family. Your first sign that life as you
know it is going to change has already occured, wether you knew it or not.

'While driving back one evening with a CRB in my trunk I turned to my
sleeping wife, saw her buldging stomach and thought to myself, why I am
driving 140 MPH and risking my wife's life for $200?'

I've not purchased anything from you, so I don't know the volume of time you
spend with your 'Clients', but I can tell from your message that closing a
deal was probably just as much time as building crates and sourcing parts.
You seem like a GREAT guy and a typical S-Car owner / adict :)
and I'm sure that everyone here will not only understand, but also know that
you will be lurking here keeping an eye on us. So with that, hang in there,
and enjoy the next stage of your life. If you put as much passion into as
I've seen you put in on this list, I'm sure it will be even more rewarding.

Eric
Married 13 years, two kids, two dogs, 2 VW's and 2 Audi's. Not to mention
the job and house...
If I'm sucessfull, they get time in the order that I've listed them above
(VW's first because one is wifes car and the other is race car).

>
> Message: 8
> From: "Robert B."
> To:
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:11:23 +0200
> Subject: [s-cars] Time to say Goodbye for a while
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> Hello S-Listers:
>
> After much internal searching, I have decided that my life is changing in
s=3D
> uch a way that I will not be able to sell anymore CRBs, deal as a broker
wi=3D
> th Ebay purchases, act as translator for Ebay text and generally be of
assi=3D
> stance. I still love my Audis and haven't developed a sudden love of some
o=3D
> ther car brand. No, there are many reasons why I need to stop investing
tim=3D
> e and money in gathering precious and rare CRBs and selling them for a
coup=3D
> le hundreds buck more than I spend. Here's a small list of the reasons
behi=3D
> nd my decision:
>
> 1=3D2E My wife is expecting our first baby and everyone is telling me that
li=3D
> fe as I know it will end. Hmm, tell me it won't be so.
> 2=3D2E While driving back one evening with a CRB in my trunk I turned to =
my
s=3D
> leeping wife, saw her buldging stomach and thought to myself, why I am
driv=3D
> ing 140 MPH and risking my wife's life for $200?
> 3=3D2E I need to finish my own project cars.
> 4=3D2E I spent all last summer building crates and sending motors,
transmissi=3D
> ons and tons of little things and want to spend this summer camping,
fishin=3D
> g, having fun and not building crates.
> 5=3D2E My day job is killing me and I need to concentrate on work to pay =
the
=3D
> bills.
> 6=3D2E Mr. Kluge told me that the general condition of the last CRBs he's
see=3D
> n is getting worse because they do wear out eventually and I fear that one
=3D
> of these days I'll get a CRB that needs new everything.
> 7=3D2E Mr. Kluge is telling me that he wants to retire and drops hints th=
at
h=3D
> e's tired of rebuilding 01Es.
>
> All of these reasons plus the losses I've incurred over the last 2 years
ge=3D
> tting stuck with wrong, defective or junky parts force me to make some
chan=3D
> ges in my life. Having said the above, I have 2 stock and Kluge rebuilt
CRB=3D
> s and then there won't be anymore from me.
>
> I hope that everyone here on the S-List understands my decision.
>
> Kind Regards, Rob



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:16:05 -0400
To: Joseph Pizzimenti
, s-car-list at audifans.com
From: Brett Dikeman

Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] Re: Joey's getting ANGRY!!!

At 3:17 PM -0700 4/17/03, Joseph Pizzimenti wrote:
>Subj: Re: Joey's getting ANGRY!!!

>As you may be aware, I've been chasing down this ***
>****** hydraulic issue for the past year with NO help.

On the bright side, last time I saw a subject line like that, it was
"Jimmy" not "Joey", and it was a tad more than a hydraulic issue :-)

>What I get is after a good brake, when I release brake
>pedal, I get mooing sound like SOMETHING (pump, bomb,
>brake MC, etc.) is sucking air.

Perhaps the ABS unit freaking out? They do this at low speed if the
sensors aren't properly spaced from the teeth on the hub, or the
teeth have lots of rust. Obviously disabling ABS to test is one way,
if you're not familiar with what the ABS unit sounds like when it
kicks in.

IMHO if the pump is sucking air, you'll know, because assist goes
bonkers, cutting in+out. With a full reservoir, it's simply not
possible for any part of the system to suck air, really...

Other listers mentioned the front-wheels-off-the-ground, lock-to-lock
20 times bleeding procedure, have you done that?(by the way, the
advice against holding the wheel against the lock is valid, that
nasty noise is your rack getting ready to go- NEVER hold the wheel
against the stops!)

Only other thing I can think of is a clogged screen in the reservoir,
or maybe a clogged screen in one of the banjo bolts(a few have small
cheesy little plastic screens designed to keep the pump from
ingesting something.) Also, did you pump->bomb hose have that small
plastic tube with the crimped sleeve in the center?

>It will also go away if I swerve around (charging the pump back up again?)

The PS and brake assist systems are separate halves of the pump, and
almost completely separate systems, sharing only the reservoir in
common. The bomb has NOTHING to do with steering- it supplies
pressure ONLY to the brake servo.

B
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Message: 9
From: Charlie Smith
Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS2 MAF meter
To: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:40:08 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com ('s-car-list at audifans.com')

Earlier, Robert Pastore wrote:
>
> O2 sensor only comes into play closed loop. WOT ( when all the fun SHOULD
> start) is open loop, no help from the 02 sensor. WOT is also when you bui=
ld
> boost -- do you really want to risk a mixture that is less than ideal with
> 20+ lbs of boost?

Most of your "steady state" running (that I was talking about), is at cruise
not WOT. At least I can't run WOT here in Ohihohaha Land very often or for
very long. And, I can build close to 20 lbs boost at less than WOT. Of
course, I can't cruise there for long in Ohihohaha Land.

- Charlie


Charlie Smith charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418
http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info





> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Smith [mailto:charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org]
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:30 PM
> To: mlped at qwest.net
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS2 MAF meter
>
>
> Earlier, mlp qwest wrote:
> >
> > No. You can swap parts, but they don't always run well together.
> > Ditto the screen / no screens issue. I believe opinions on the
> > list have varied as to whether the those trying the mod have noticed
> > an improvement, or not.
>
> You guys have to remember that the O2 sensor system is in action here.
> Even if your MAF is off calibration for the values in your ECU, you
> will sort of limp along. Because when you get to a steady state with
> the go-fast pedal, the O2 system will put the mixture where it want's
> it to be.
>
> You may have stumbles or flat spots getting to steady state, because
> the basic mixture is being set wrong by the ECU because it is getting
> invalid signals from the MAF. Same is true with different injectors
> or when you've been fiddling with the fuel pressure.
>
> - Charlie
>
>
> Charlie Smith charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418
> http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA
> http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info
>
> 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features
> 97 Dodge Ram - 35 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel
>

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:55:34 -0600
From: "mlp qwest"
To: "Mark Strangways" ,
s-car-list at audifans.com
Reply-To:
Subject: RE: [s-cars] pedal covers

Gee Mark, I'd count yourself lucky.
If you'd really spent on the car like some on the list ...

You wouldn't have enough left to afford the
cost of the bullet to shoot it with :-)

BTW what caliber do you think you need to
knock one of these babes down?

mlp

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~On Behalf Of Mark Strangways
~
~(Start RAMBLE...)
~
~I just recently looked up all the bills for the last few years that I spent
~on my 92' (93' CAN). Any other car I would have taken up north and SHOT it
.=2E...

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~
~Just a short ramble, that I am sure most of us have BTDT on .
~
~Mark S
~



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Message: 11
From: "Mark Strangways"
To: ,
Subject: Re: [s-cars] pedal covers
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:06:48 -0400

I think I would have to select the 12 Ga. for the task. Specifically the 3"
Magnum version :)
But than again I just could not do it !

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "mlp qwest"
To: "Mark Strangways" ;
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] pedal covers


> Gee Mark, I'd count yourself lucky.
> If you'd really spent on the car like some on the list ...

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