[s-cars] Champion Racing RS6: Speaking of Fram Filters...

[James Murray (QC/LMC)]

To answer the "the bad", according to their web site...

Q:  When should I change my filter element?
A:  Under normal operating conditions we recommend a CM filter element should be changed every 10,000 street miles. Many customers change the element every second oil change. Under circumstances when large quantities of particles are being caught, like in older engines, engines which have not had regular oil changes, new engines during break-in, or when some oil additives are used, the element may need to be changed sooner. When the normal operating oil pressure has decreased 4 lbs. to 5 lbs. the filter should be changed.

Never tried but looks interesting... thanks for the link.

Cheers, /Jamu.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Frank [mailto:tfrank at symyx.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:17 PM
To: JShadzi at aol.com; Keith Maddock; quattro at audifans.com;
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Subject: RE: [s-cars] Champion Racing RS6: Speaking of Fram Filters...



All of this has reminded me, I haven't gotten in my weekly plug, if you want a real filter go to Mecca, Canton Mecca.

http://www.cantonracing.com/

One will outflow 4 Fram HP1's.  You replace the filter element, it is a depth filter not a surface filter, it doesn't bypass.  It is an 8 micron element.  The element is over 4" long.  It is a direct spin on replacement for a stock filter.

The bad, it cost's around $10 for each replacement filter.


-----Original Message-----
From: JShadzi at aol.com [mailto:JShadzi at aol.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:47 AM
To: "Keith Maddock"; quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at audifans.com; urq at audifans.com; Trevor Frank
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Champion Racing RS6: Speaking of Fram Filters...

The filter appeared to be exactly what you'd get over the counter, plus companys like Fram don't usually tend to make different products with the same exact part #, of course I can't say exactly for sure, but there is no reason to think any different.

Some of the failures of Fram filters I've heard of dealt with internal failure of the element, not just "less than ideal" filtering, that the filter failed in a fundamental way causing debris and pressure loss inside the motor.

Of course, most cars out there are running Fram filters as well, so sponsorship may have something to do with it.

Javad

>
>What are the odds that the innards of the "Kragen Style Fram PH2870" in that race car were the same as a "Kragen Style Fram PH2870" that one of us mere mortals can buy?
>
>Also, with race engines that get rebuilt more often than most of us do oil changes, how important is an oil filter anyway?
>
>Cheers,
>Keith
>
>Keith Maddock, TRW Automotive,  Koblenz, Germany
>Slip Control Systems, Systems Design, Traction Control
>+49 (0)261/ 895 2474    -   -   keith.maddock at trw.com
>
>
>>>> "Trevor Frank" <tfrank at symyx.com> 18:15:10 29.07.2003 >>>
>
>Sponsorship.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JShadzi at aol.com [mailto:JShadzi at aol.com]
>Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:48 PM
>To: quattro at audifans.com; s-car-list at audifans.com; urq at audifans.com
>Subject: [s-cars] Champion Racing RS6: Speaking of Fram Filters...
>
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>Well, wonders never cease, today while pawing under the hood of a N.
>American
>Audi Sport/Champion Racing RS6, sure enough, there it was, your over the
>counter Kragen Style Fram PH2870, sitting as orange as can be.  Even had
>the high
>performance "grip top" cannister...make your own conclusions.
>
>Javad
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