[s-cars] RE: S-CAR-List digest, spare antenna
Bill Healy
william.healy at snet.net
Wed Jan 15 14:09:52 EST 2003
John,
I've got a spare antenna, I'll dig it up if your interested, it's yours.
Bill Healy
'93 S4
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1. EDL Vs. Manual Diff Lock (Jeremy Hull)
2. Re: 3B ECU part number, anyone? (jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com)
3. RE: 3B ECU part number, anyone? (Ian Duff)
4. RE: UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers (Ian Duff)
5. Antenna (John Mertz)
6. Re: 3B ECU part number, anyone? (jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com)
7. RE: S8 wheels - (Joseph Pizzimenti)
8. RE: Re: Subie WRX AWD (NAC) (Matt Russell)
9. RE: S8 wheels - (Matt Russell)
10. RE: This just in..... (Joseph Pizzimenti)
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From: "Jeremy Hull" <jhull at cs.autometric.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:59:11 -0700
Subject: [s-cars] EDL Vs. Manual Diff Lock
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Can anybody discuss the pros and cons of each? Trying to decide if it's
worth it to go for a 95.5 S6 Vs. a 95
Jeremy Hull
Software Engineer
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:16:05 -0800
From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
To: Ian Duff <iduff at rcn.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Reply-To: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
Thanks. I would venture a guess that the reason for the two different
numbers
is because the first 3 digits denote the model family but I could be wrong.
If
I remember at all correctly, the first group is model (as in 100, S4, A4
etc),
the second group is component group (electronics, lights, interior etc.).
Then
the lst group denoted the specific item (as in left headlight, ECU, front
seat). I coul dbe wrong but that would explain why the first three digits
ar
different and the other 6 are the same. The letter (or letters) at the end
denote the version - generally minor updates to the code etc.
VW codes work the same way.
I would guess that a good partsperson (if that exists) could eventually look
at
a part number and tell you exactly what the part is just by interpreting the
code.
If anyone can confirm or clarify further, that would be great.
Thanks,
Jim
Ian Duff wrote:
> I looked at the 1991 200 quattro (Type 44) in the US Family Album and it
> indicated the pn for a "motronic control unit" is 447 907 404 AA. Then I
> looked at a 1991 S2 (Type 89) in the Euro Family Album, and it showed a
> "electronic control unit", "MOTRONIC" as pn 895 907 404 BA. CRAFT is
rearing
> its ugly head, did a 3B show up in any other cars?
> -Ian Duff.
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> Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 16:46
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
>
> Subject says it all. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jim Klein
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From: "Ian Duff" <iduff at rcn.com>
To: <jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: RE: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:32:49 -0500
I agree on everything except the last letter bit.
As an example, wheels listed in the FA are as follows:
pn width dia ET Ian's description
4A0 601 025 B 7 15 45 8 spokes
4A0 601 025 D 7.5 15 40 6 tapered spokes, not AVUS
4A0 601 025 E 8 16 40 5 spokes
4A0 601 025 M 8 17 40 10 spokes
Looks like Hans und Franz have some fun at our expense by changing just the
last letters.
-Ian Duff.
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From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:16
To: Ian Duff
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
Thanks. I would venture a guess that the reason for the two different
numbers
is because the first 3 digits denote the model family but I could be wrong.
If
I remember at all correctly, the first group is model (as in 100, S4, A4
etc),
the second group is component group (electronics, lights, interior etc.).
Then
the lst group denoted the specific item (as in left headlight, ECU, front
seat). I coul dbe wrong but that would explain why the first three digits
ar
different and the other 6 are the same. The letter (or letters) at the end
denote the version - generally minor updates to the code etc.
VW codes work the same way.
I would guess that a good partsperson (if that exists) could eventually look
at
a part number and tell you exactly what the part is just by interpreting the
code.
If anyone can confirm or clarify further, that would be great.
Thanks,
Jim
Ian Duff wrote:
> I looked at the 1991 200 quattro (Type 44) in the US Family Album and it
> indicated the pn for a "motronic control unit" is 447 907 404 AA. Then I
> looked at a 1991 S2 (Type 89) in the Euro Family Album, and it showed a
> "electronic control unit", "MOTRONIC" as pn 895 907 404 BA. CRAFT is
rearing
> its ugly head, did a 3B show up in any other cars?
> -Ian Duff.
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> jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 16:46
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
>
> Subject says it all. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Jim Klein
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Message: 4
From: "Ian Duff" <iduff at rcn.com>
To: <ray at s-cars.org>,
"'James Murray (LMC)'" <James.Murray at ericsson.ca>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:35:54 -0500
This looks like it might be for current generations of the A4 and A6, which
eliminates our older generation A6-derived luvs. Say it ain't so...
-ian Duff.
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:50
To: 'James Murray (LMC)'
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
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RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacersJames, look on the bottom
of page 7 of the "old catalog" -
"A4/A6 DIN Chassis spacers"
Ray
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From: James Murray (LMC) [mailto:James.Murray at ericsson.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:11 AM
To: 'ray at s-cars.org'; 'Steve Marinello'; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
Will do, but not today, when I get a chance I will let you know what they
say. Was this the online catalogue you where looking for:
http://www.lltek.com/catalog_07.htm
Cheers, /J.
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From: Ray Tomlinson [SMTP:ray at s-cars.org]
Sent: January 15, 2003 10:22 AM
To: 'James Murray (LMC)'; 'Steve Marinello'; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
James,
The DIN spacers I bought were for a 96.5 A4, which used the same Bose
deck in my S6, so I am assuming they must have more than one kit available.
I checked out their online catalog, but they no longer illustrate the old,
but still good, goodies. Feel like taking a short drive and reporting back
to us?
Thanks,
Ray
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From: James Murray (LMC) [mailto:James.Murray at ericsson.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:57 AM
To: 'ray at s-cars.org'; 'Steve Marinello'; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
LLTEK's shop is 5-10 min drive away from my work, but is this DIN
radio kit standard? I mean will it fit the UrS-cars? or only the new A4's...
I don't see how it would fit the same contour. If there's enough interest I
can check for you.
Cheers, /J.
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From: Ray Tomlinson [SMTP:ray at s-cars.org]
Sent: January 15, 2003 9:13 AM
To: 'Steve Marinello'; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units - DIN spacers
LLtek sells DIN radio fit kits (blanks that screw in). Same matte
finish as
stock black plastic, so look totally stock, and fit contours of
factory
cutout. I installed a set in my A4 back a few years ago - cost $35
for the
pair, IIRC. James, aren't you friendly with the boys at LLTek? Want
to
give a call and see what kind of deal we can put together?
Ray
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[ <mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com>]On Behalf Of Steve Marinello
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:38 PM
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] UrScar stereo head units
Okay, so we've got the oversized Delta unit in the later '95's and
'95.5's,
as in my avant. However, the early S6 sedan I picked up has the diff
switch
and therefore has the cigarette lighter up on the right side of the
console
and has a reduced space for a unit. In fact, the PO had replaced it
with a
normal DIN Alpine unit; the fact thta the idiot just hooked them up to
the
Bose in the rear deck not withstanding.
SO, the question is, can that little cigarette lighter section be had
and is
it all that would be necessary to convert to a normal, or maybe still
slightly oversized, DIN space? you'd have to dual wire the second 12
volt
hookup, but I'd appreciate another one of those anyway....phone and
radar.
Anyone know the facts on this?
By the way, Mark, on my sedan I can't imagine fitting 5 1/4" or 5" in
the
door location...maybe a four inch, but I've got to pull the cover off
and
look.
Thanks,
Steve
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Message: 5
From: John Mertz <john.mertz at firstbank-illinois.com>
To: "S-Car-List (E-mail)" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:46:36 -0600
Subject: [s-cars] Antenna
Does anyone have a spare stock phone antenna for my 95.5 S6? Mine got
knocked off somewhere and disappeared. No can find. Thanks.
John
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:45:21 -0800
From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
To: Ian Duff <iduff at rcn.com>
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Reply-To: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
Actually, yes, I do agree, it denotes color of interior trim in other cases.
In the case of an ECU though I would guess it is some slight code thing. I
priced S4/S6 ECU's from a few dealer a while back and they all came back
with
the same part number but slightly different ending letters.
Jim
Ian Duff wrote:
> I agree on everything except the last letter bit.
>
> As an example, wheels listed in the FA are as follows:
> pn width dia ET Ian's description
> 4A0 601 025 B 7 15 45 8 spokes
> 4A0 601 025 D 7.5 15 40 6 tapered spokes, not AVUS
> 4A0 601 025 E 8 16 40 5 spokes
> 4A0 601 025 M 8 17 40 10 spokes
>
> Looks like Hans und Franz have some fun at our expense by changing just
the
> last letters.
>
> -Ian Duff.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:16
> To: Ian Duff
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
>
> Thanks. I would venture a guess that the reason for the two different
> numbers
> is because the first 3 digits denote the model family but I could be
wrong.
> If
> I remember at all correctly, the first group is model (as in 100, S4, A4
> etc),
> the second group is component group (electronics, lights, interior etc.).
> Then
> the lst group denoted the specific item (as in left headlight, ECU, front
> seat). I coul dbe wrong but that would explain why the first three digits
> ar
> different and the other 6 are the same. The letter (or letters) at the
end
> denote the version - generally minor updates to the code etc.
> VW codes work the same way.
> I would guess that a good partsperson (if that exists) could eventually
look
> at
> a part number and tell you exactly what the part is just by interpreting
the
> code.
> If anyone can confirm or clarify further, that would be great.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> Ian Duff wrote:
>
> > I looked at the 1991 200 quattro (Type 44) in the US Family Album and it
> > indicated the pn for a "motronic control unit" is 447 907 404 AA. Then I
> > looked at a 1991 S2 (Type 89) in the Euro Family Album, and it showed a
> > "electronic control unit", "MOTRONIC" as pn 895 907 404 BA. CRAFT is
> rearing
> > its ugly head, did a 3B show up in any other cars?
> > -Ian Duff.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> > [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of
> > jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 16:46
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Subject: [s-cars] 3B ECU part number, anyone?
> >
> > Subject says it all. Any help would be appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > Jim Klein
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:00:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [s-cars] S8 wheels -
To: TM <t44tq at mindspring.com>, landaeta1 at comcast.net, bobs6 at msn.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
For everyone's enjoyment, the 2003 S8 came with
celebration-type 9 spoke 18's with 255 rubber. Do not
know width or offset, but I'm sure it's out there.
--- TM <t44tq at mindspring.com> wrote:
> Doug-
> I don't understand your post.
>
> The wheels on the ebay listing you mention are 18"
> RS-4 "type"
> wheels, 9-spoke. S8 Avus are 18x8" ET48 6-spoke with
> the trademark
> Avus styling. Perry's old car had what appeared to
> be A6 2.7T
> centercaps.
>
> Without knowing the Pearl S4 you mention, I can say
> with 95% certainty
> that those are not real RS-4 wheels, which would be
> 18x8" ET20 or
> thereabouts
> and would stick way out of your wheelwells. They
> would also not be the
> Audi "Celebration" package wheels on the 2001.5 A4
> as those are 17x7.5
> ET40,
> IIRC.
>
> Taka
>
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> From: Douglas Landaeta
> [mailto:landaeta1 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:12 AM
> To: TM; bobs6 at msn.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] S8 wheels -
>
>
> Wild! I thought my car was Pearl? "those are
> definitely 18" S8 Avus
> wheels" - Great, I love 'em (in the Summer) They're
> on the back deck in
> clear plastic bags so I can see them before I drive
> the Ronal 5 spokes
> with the snows. Got the 16"original Avus but they
> are very pitted,
> probably car washes or bad maintenance - any hope
> for them?
>
> Makes sense if Perry Eyges sold his wheels on Ebay
> and Henry Cha bought
> them and put them on his (now my S4) sometime prior
> to November 2002.
> This baby's mine now:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873284280
>
> While we're at it - anybody seen my Emerald/Ecru
> 95.5 Avant around Ohio?
> One of Bobby Rahal's Race Engineers bought it, funny
> Team Rahal's
> dealerships don't include Audi, I wonder what David
> Letterman drives?
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TM [mailto:t44tq at mindspring.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:30 PM
> To: landaeta1 at comcast.net; bobs6 at msn.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] S8 wheels
>
>
> That's Perry Eyges' old Europa Blue S6 Avant-
> those are definitely 18" S8 Avus wheels, although
> with a different center cap than stock.
>
> Taka
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com] On Behalf Of
> Douglas Landaeta
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:02 PM
> To: bobs6 at msn.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] S8 wheels
>
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> These are probably not S8 wheels, but they are 18"
> AUdi repros of some
> sort. Stock ride height.
>
> Doug
> 94 S4
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Message: 8
From: "Matt Russell" <skippertgore at hotmail.com>
To: James.Murray at ericsson.ca, Keith.Maddock at trw.com,
t44tq at mindspring.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Subie WRX AWD (NAC)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:03:16 +0000
Taka, yes the weight is up there, but so are s4tt's.
I'll take one in red, just like my old 16v Scirocco.
and a New Dimensions turbo/supercharger kit as well please...
-Matt, co
92 s4
>From: "James Murray (LMC)" <James.Murray at ericsson.ca>
>To: "'Keith Maddock'" <Keith.Maddock at trw.com>, skippertgore at hotmail.com,
>t44tq at mindspring.com
>CC: s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Subie WRX AWD (NAC)
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:00:45 -0500
>
>Ya know what looks darn interesting... the VW RS32 ! and it's coming to
>North America !!!
>
>Check it out: http://www.vwvortex.com/news/01_03/NAIAS/R32/index.shtml
>
>/J.
>
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Message: 9
From: "Matt Russell" <skippertgore at hotmail.com>
To: landaeta1 at comcast.net, t44tq at mindspring.com, bobs6 at msn.com
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] S8 wheels -
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:04:14 +0000
Message: 6
Rahal's dealerships
don't include Audi, I wonder what David Letterman drives?
<NAC>
I'm not sure if you're speaking about THE Dave letterman, he's been know to
zoom up and down the Merritt Parkway in CT in a Por*che, getting pulled over
and ticketed at least once a year.
-Matt, co
92 s4
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:07:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Pizzimenti <pizzoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [s-cars] This just in.....
To: Robert Pastore <rpastore at animalfeeds.com>,
"'CaptMagu at aol.com'" <CaptMagu at aol.com>, charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
"I never narc'd on nobody, man! I never narc'd on
NOBODY!"
F&F
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> "Hey, whaddya gonna do? Nice college boy, eh? Didn't
> want to get mixed
> up in the family business? Now you wanna gun down a
> New York City police
> officer, why, 'cause he slapped you in the face a
> little bit? Whaddya
> think, this is the army where you shoot 'em from a
> mile away? You gotta
> get up real close and - Badda-bing!"
> --Sonny Corleone
>
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> Subject: Re: [s-cars] This just in.....
>
>
> Frank
>
> I vote we add Charlie to our list of revenge.
>
> Hap, flying the friendly skies and not in Evergreen,
> Maguire
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