[s-cars] Trouble in 4KCSQ Land How I see it!

[chris chambers]

I am perplexed....

Now I am in Michigan where our cars are not as of yet smogged.

My question is this, if he sold the car, received the cash and the kid
did not smog the car when it would have passed smog (assumption here)
the kid drove the car until it needed to pass smog, it will now not
pass smog, if the kid wants to give it back to him, fine, why buy it
back? If you still own the car I say the kid rented it from you for 6
months for $1500....$1500/365/2 = $8 a day rent...pretty cheap!

I state this because if the kid had wrecked the car and hurt someone
who would have been responsible? The kid never registered it so isn't
the registered owner on the line?

Bottom line, he didn't ripoff the kid, he was taken advantage of by the
kid. Take back the car for free or help him dispose of it, don't give
him any money back.

That's how I see it
Chris


--- JShadzi at aol.com wrote:
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I'm sure the DMV could tell them, its who ever the pink slip's name
> is in,
> but it sounds like money exchanged hands, the kid never registered it
> due to
> no smog, and now is having to smog it becuase the PO's registration
> expired.
> So, it seems that the car's title never changed hands, I'd bet that
> Greg
> still owns the car, legally nothing has changed if the title was
> never
> transfered, practically speaking the kid may have just been driving
> Greg's
> car for the last months.
>
> The reason the law is as it is regarding smog is to prevent a seller
> from
> selling a smog-lemon to an unsuspecting buyer.  That's why as a
> seller in CA
> its so important to make sure the car you're selling is smogable,
> otherwise
> the title can never change hands.  If in the case of Greg, the kid
> never did
> it, and now it has to be done for the annual registration, the car
> may have
> been mal-maintained or abused, and Greg is still responsible for a
> smog he
> should have done 6 months ago or whenever the car changed hands.
>
> That's why i think Greg should make an offer to the kid, $800 or
> something
> for the car, they split the liability, fix the car for $350 or so and
> either
> sell it again or have a nice beater car to drive.  Legally though it
> still
> may be his car, Greg, any comments, do you know whose name the car is
> in
> currently?
>
> Javad
>
> In a message dated 1/16/2003 12:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> quattrofan at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> > Javad, that is true; but, a title transfer/new owner registration
> can't be
> > completed without the smog certificate.  This makes the case a bit
> more
> > confusing.  Something is not right here.  Either the car is still
> in Greg's
> > name and the kid has no insurance on it (illegal in CA), or the kid
> got it
> > done and is blowing smoke up his ass trying to get some money for
> repairs
> > or
> > get rid of the car.
> >
> > So the big question is... <drum roll, please> ... Who legally owns
> this
> > vehicle?
> >
> > Mike Robinson
> > 88 90 quattro SS
> > 247,000 mi +-
> >
>
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