[s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost gauge installation

[Mark Strangways]

Anything I say is speculation.
I am just thinking of where the source of vacuum is, and the direction of
flow.
Yes, there are reversions in the flow and pulses. Audi surely didn't include
this part for no good reason right.

Mark S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor Frank" <tfrank at symyx.com>
To: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst at rogers.com>; "Dave Forgie"
<forgied at burnaby.associated-eng.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost gauge
installation


> Well, house keeping I dunno. But let off the throttle and check out your
> pressure gauge "what pressure gauge", motor is still sucking and
> throttle plate is shut.  It's enough to open the bypass valve.  Then it
> probably does a good job of making fuel vapor.  Get on the gas and I
> suspect all that air is going to want to fill the vacuum, who knows
> where the vapor will end up.  But then again I could be all wrong.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst at rogers.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: Trevor Frank; Dave Forgie; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost
> gauge installation
>
>
> Quote : "Vacuum"
>
> Are you trying to tell me something about my house keeping ? And how did
> you know anyways ?
>
> I can see some fuel being in the intake manifold put it should mostly be
> between intake runners as that is what causes the "vacuum"
>
> Mark S
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trevor Frank" <tfrank at symyx.com>
> To: "Mark Strangways" <strangconst at rogers.com>; "Dave Forgie"
> <forgied at burnaby.associated-eng.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost
> gauge installation
>
>
>
> Vacuum.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst at rogers.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:25 PM
> To: Dave Forgie; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost
> gauge installation
>
>
> I did mine just about right at the ECU.
>
> But, why would there be fuel in the intake manifold really ?? The fuel
> is injected at each cylinder.
>
> But I assume that would be a thread for another day !
>
> Mark S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Forgie" <forgied at burnaby.associated-eng.com>
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:00 PM
> Subject: [s-cars] Help with a "moisture trap" definition re: boost gauge
> installation
>
>
> Gentlemen:  I have been having an internet "conversation" with an
> "internationally reknowed" (in his opinion) "20vt tuner" (You can guess
> who).  The point of the discussion is my understanding about the
> "moisture trap" (which is isn't) and my contention that you should be
> able to T a boost gauge anywhere downstream of the "trap".  What is
> wrong with my statement below?  Comments and corrections appreciated.
>
> Dave F. suggested:
>
> "The 'moisture trap' (which is the wrong name for it) is an analogue to
> analogue pressure  transducer, i.e. there is a air/fuel mixture pressure
> "signal" from the intake manifold side of a  fuel resistant diaphram
> which is translated to an air-only pressure "signal" in the plastic tube
> leading to the ECU. The pressure transducer (2.5 BAR or 3 BAR) inside
> the ECU box is analogue (pressure) to electrical and translates the
> analogue pressure signal (can be read  on an analogue gauge) to a
> millivolt electrical signal (that can be read with a multimeter - as you
> well know) that is read by the chips in the ECU. (The one thing I don't
> know is whether  the ECU pressure transducer also creates a digital
> output from the millivolt pressure translation or there is something
> else that does this before the chips).
>
> In any event, to install an analogue pressure gauge, it should be fine
> to T' off anywhere  downstream of the analogue pressure transducer and
> before the ECU box. The advantage of  T-ing near the ECU is the analogue
> pressure signal tube has already gone through the  firewall and into the
> passenger cabin. "
>
>  Dave F.
>
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