[s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?

Calvin & Diana Craig calvinlc at earthlink.net
Thu Jun 19 23:38:40 EDT 2003


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Bill,

I hope you don't have any R134a in any of your vehicles.  The autoignition
temperature for that is 300 degrees LESS than Duracool.  I don't know about
Autofrost, but Duracool is what I use.  A full charge of this stuff will
create a flash for 1 to 1.5 seconds when ignited, which of course is harder
to do than the R134a that is in all the newer vehicles.  People see the word
hydrocarbon and get scared.  EVERYTHING is flammable, it's just a matter of
at what temperature and under what conditions.

I don't quite understand the statement about throw a match on liquid
gasoline and it goes out.  I thought gas was one of the best fire
accelerators around.

--Calvin

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Bennett [mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:47 PM
  To: Calvin & Diana Craig; Greg Johnson; northwest audi enthusiasts; S
Cars; V8; urq; 200 List
  Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


  Yeah, and it is not a foot from the front of the car in vapor in a fragile
aluminum tube boob, no thanks Calvin, I like my urq too much to use this
sheet, throw a match on liquid gasoline it goes out, throw a match on
flammable gas? WHOMP!
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Calvin & Diana Craig
    To: Bill Bennett ; Greg Johnson ; northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars ;
V8 ; urq ; 200 List
    Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:52 PM
    Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


    Yeah, so is gas, but we seem to put about 21 gallons of that in the car
:)
    --Calvin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
    [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bennett
    Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:10 PM
    To: Greg Johnson; northwest audi enthusiasts; S Cars; V8; urq; 200 List
    Subject: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


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    after visiting their website using that refrigerant in an URQ would be a
BAD
    idea. URQ's use the mini York, the shaft seal materials are not
compatible
    with that refrigerant R406A and it is flammable! not a good idea in a
car,
    Kaboom! in a collision event! pay the piper and stay with R-12 or
convert to
    R-134a. Regards, Bill
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Greg Johnson
      To: northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars ; V8 ; urq ; 200 List
      Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:39 PM
      Subject: [urq] AutoFrost?


      Have any of you successfully used AutoFrost instead of Freon?

      See www.autofrost.com

      TIA for your input.

      Greg J
      BIRA.ORG


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