[s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?

[Bill Bennett]

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Calvin, none of my cars have any refrigerant, I live in Orygun, save the we=
ight, why haul around what you do not need, I just sit around every weekend=
 spittin' and tossing matches with my beer buddies into a bucket filled wit=
h liquid gasoline, we bet who can make it lite off, the loser has to drink =
another beer, boy we get sheet faced! sit around and fart and beer burps an=
d talk about the big difference between a liquid and a vapor (gas) in the s=
ame ignition event, we are thinking about building a device to collect vapo=
r, go have some beers and toss matches and see what happens. And seriously!=
 Duracool? who sells recycling machines for it? (no one) who sells recyclin=
g machines for R134a? All the A/C suppliers. Who supports Duracool with tec=
hnical advise? no one I heard of. Who supports R134a with technical advise?=
 Well MACS, iATN, SAE, LMVIND, WIS, TIS, Audi, Volvo, VW, Mickie Benz, BuMm=
erW, Porsche, Slaab( scary that Saab builds planes too), and all the Americ=
an car manufacturers, oh, also the japs and koreans.   Bill PS R 134a may n=
ot be the best coolant, it is the industry standard
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Calvin & Diana Craig
  To: Bill Bennett ; Greg Johnson ; northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars ; V=
8 ; urq ; 200 List
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:38 PM
  Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


  Bill,

  I hope you don't have any R134a in any of your vehicles.  The autoignitio=
n temperature for that is 300 degrees LESS than Duracool.  I don't know abo=
ut Autofrost, but Duracool is what I use.  A full charge of this stuff will=
 create a flash for 1 to 1.5 seconds when ignited, which of course is harde=
r to do than the R134a that is in all the newer vehicles.  People see the w=
ord hydrocarbon and get scared.  EVERYTHING is flammable, it's just a matte=
r of at what temperature and under what conditions.

  I don't quite understand the statement about throw a match on liquid gaso=
line and it goes out.  I thought gas was one of the best fire accelerators =
around.

  --Calvin

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    From: Bill Bennett [mailto:ur.quattro at verizon.net]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:47 PM
    To: Calvin & Diana Craig; Greg Johnson; northwest audi enthusiasts; S C=
ars; V8; urq; 200 List
    Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


    Yeah, and it is not a foot from the front of the car in vapor in a frag=
ile aluminum tube boob, no thanks Calvin, I like my urq too much to use thi=
s sheet, throw a match on liquid gasoline it goes out, throw a match on fla=
mmable gas? WHOMP!
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Calvin & Diana Craig
      To: Bill Bennett ; Greg Johnson ; northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars=
 ; V8 ; urq ; 200 List
      Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:52 PM
      Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


      Yeah, so is gas, but we seem to put about 21 gallons of that in the c=
ar :)
      --Calvin


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      From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
      [mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bennett
      Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:10 PM
      To: Greg Johnson; northwest audi enthusiasts; S Cars; V8; urq; 200 Li=
st
      Subject: [s-cars] Re: [urq] AutoFrost?


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      after visiting their website using that refrigerant in an URQ would b=
e a BAD
      idea. URQ's use the mini York, the shaft seal materials are not compa=
tible
      with that refrigerant R406A and it is flammable! not a good idea in a=
 car,
      Kaboom! in a collision event! pay the piper and stay with R-12 or con=
vert to
      R-134a. Regards, Bill
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        From: Greg Johnson
        To: northwest audi enthusiasts ; S Cars ; V8 ; urq ; 200 List
        Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:39 PM
        Subject: [urq] AutoFrost?


        Have any of you successfully used AutoFrost instead of Freon?

        See www.autofrost.com

        TIA for your input.

        Greg J
        BIRA.ORG


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