[s-cars] heel-toe driving

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Thu May 1 08:51:28 EDT 2003


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In a message dated 4/30/2003 1:07:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
tedebearp at yahoo.com writes:

>>i agree on the first part but not the second part.  lots of people go
>>fast without left-foot braking, just as they don't have to heel-toe to go
>>fast.

Go fast?  Or go faster.  If you drive a quattro and don't LFB, you maybe
going fast, but you can go much faster, dramatically so.   Soft sprung miss
piggies can move around that roll center pretty dramatically.   I don't see
that same correlation with H&T on "fast".

>Audi changed pedal location since "unintended acceleration" to
>make H/T just about impossible without changing the hardware under your
feet.

>>you can add an extension to the gas pedal to make it easier.

My definition of "changing the hardware"

> As of drive by wire, there is no heel/toe beyond 3 seconds anymore than
>there is LFB beyond 3seconds.

>>can you explain this?  if you are on the brakes for more than 3 seconds,
>>the throttle becomes inoperative?

>>-teddy

Yes teddy exactly.  The new computers (including some self proclaimed "pro
racers" S4tt) won't allow simultaneous application of brake and throttle in
driving, I timed this with another instructor last year, it's pretty much
exactly 3seconds, then the throttle is deleted from your mix.  This would
adversely affect H&T and LFB techniques greatly, as in, no discussion
necessary.

HTH

SJ







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