[s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping' in traffic

Sun May 4 13:29:59 EDT 2003

Maybe we all can get in on one of those class action lawsuits against a
tobacco company while we're at it... Any of you have breast implants made by
DOW chemical? Got Firestones on your SUV? Free money is great, isnt
it??????????????? NO

>This is a tough crowd...  Wanna find blame, walk thru the logic of it
>first...  I'll try a different approach to the same runway (there ya go
>Hap)...
>
>IME/O, I've never heard of a control arm break...  Yet.  Further, I can't
>even fathom an install procedure that would cause one to do so.  *Any*
>component can fail, even on new arms.  Replacement is only a guarantee that
>you got something different than what you had before.  That doesn't at all
>equate to or mean that what you got (new) was better or can't fail.
>Failure
>of correctly specified parts isn't automatically the fault of the
>installer.
>
>What needs to happen, is you need to get some sort of documentation that
>the
>arm was installed incorrectly, or some other negligent act by the installer
>was the cause of the accident.  From what I read, that's gonna be tough to
>do
>(good luck).  When I read of a C/A snapping, my mind goes exactly opposite
>the posts so far = this isn't an installer problem, this is just a faulty
>part, plain and simple.
>
>A faulty install would result in the control arm leaving the subframe (due
>to
>incorrectly installed, or not properly torqued bolt), the control arm
>leaving
>the hub (due to incorrectly installed or not properly torqued pinch bolt),
>or
>control arm leaving the swaybar (due to incorrectly installed or not
>properly
>torqued SB nuts).  "the passengers side lower control arm snapped" sounds
>like a production problem of the lower control arm.  That would be the
>manufacturer of the part, not seller or installer.  I'm also thinking that
>even if the manufacturer is "6 sigma" ISO certified, 3 parts in 1000 won't
>be
>like the other 997.  I'd also bet that Boge (or whomever) would appreciate
>knowing about this failure more than you could imagine (read:  maybe even
>more than just replacing the part).
>
>Glad the damage was limited to metal.  Wanna find blame?  Don't make it a
>thread, be selfish and report when YOUR interests are satisfied, or not.
>
>Just my .02 reading the same thing as everyone else.
>
>Scott Justusson
>
>
>
>In a message dated 5/3/2003 1:32:09 PM Central Daylight Time,
>robert at s-cars.org writes:
>
>Ouch!  Dave Flagg?  Dave <DFAUTOHAUS at aol.com> is (Or used to be? Haven't
>seen a post from Dave in quite a while.) a q-list member.
>
>At 10:13 AM 5/3/2003 -0400, David Glasser wrote:
>
> >The shop is a father and son operation in Burlington VT called AutoHaus.
> >
> >I appreciate your advice and am seriously thinking of taking some sort of
> >legal action.
> >
> >Dave Glasser
> >95 Black S6
> >www.daveglasser.com
> >Louis, Duke, Bird, Diz, &Trane live on through
> >the work and efforts of today's jazz musicians.
> >Please continue to support the future of this great
> >American art form.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "CyberPoet" <thecyberpoet at cyberpoet.net>
> >To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >Cc: <divad at rcn.com>
> >Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:59 PM
> >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Ever heard of this? - Lower control arm 'snapping'
>in
> >traffic
> >
> >
> >>Lower control arms do not simply 'snap', especially under
> >>such a light load. The first bit of advice: Immediately
> >>contact a civil liability attorney specializing in lemon
> >>laws and vehicles, and go after the shop/dealership which
> >>sold you the vehicle. The accident, the damages, the car
> >>and your peace of mind are all worth $$$ and a torte action
> >>is probably the only way that such a facility will feel the
> >>pain enough to not perform such shoddy work again. Do not
> >>attempt to contact the dealership directly in any case
> >>what-so-ever, and if you can't control yourself enough to
> >>do that, tape every conversation with them, with their
> >>attorneys, and make sure you get the adjustors' comments on
> >>tape as well when the car is inspected by the insurance
> >>agency.
> >>
> >>Oh, and please, for the sake of the rest of us, tell us
> >>which shop/dealership you obtained this nightmare from...
> >>
> >>This kind of thing is very unlike Audi's and it needs to be
> >>explained that it is obviously the fault of human error at
> >>the local shop/dealership, and not the type of products the
> >>Audi factory puts forth. Whether the car was in a bad
> >>accident previously, and was not repaired correctly, or if
> >>the parts installed were used and questionable, or if the
> >>repair simply wasn't carried out, either way the full
> >>liability needs to lie with the responsible party.
> >>
> >>Usually I dislike attorneys, but for cases such as this, it
> >>is the only way to make a corporation (such as a
> >>dealership) feel the pain adequately to prevent them from
> >>repeating this kind of carelessness before it actually
> >>kills someone.
> >>
> >>Sorry about your misfortune,
> >>=-= Marc Glasgow
> >>www.cyberpoet.net
> >>
> >>DAVID GLASSER WROTE:
> >>
> >>Last Friday I'm driving to a job at about 4:30pm on the Henry Hudson
> >>Pkwy in
> >>NYC.  Stop and go traffic.  I'm moving about 25 mph in the right lane
> >>when a
> >>van cuts into my lane from the center lane (which was stopped at the
> >>time).
> >>I hit my brakes to slow down (no danger, plenty of time to stop) when I
> >>hear
> >>a clank and my car suddenly lurches uncontrollably to the left,
> >>scraping the
> >>right front of a blue escort along my two drivers side doors and then
> >>hitting the right front quarter panel of a limo in the left lane with my
> >>drivers side front quarter panel and scraping along the limo's
> >>passernger
> >>side doors.  Noboby hurt, thank god.  Turns out the passenger side lower
> >>control arm snapped causing the car to lurch to the left.  I've owned
> >>the
> >>car two months (just received the title in the mail today).  The lower
> >>control arms were supposedly replaced by the dealer I purchased it from.
> >>
> >>End result is the car is a total loss.  I don't know yet what the
> >>insurance
> >>co. will give me for it.  I have nowhere to keep the car to part it out
> >>or I
> >>would.
> >>
> >>Anyone ever heard of such a mechanical failure on these cars?  Kind of
> >>scary.  Thank god I wasn't driving 70mph with my pregnant wife or
> >>newborn
> >>son (12 days) in the car.  I'm fighting hard to feel good enough to
> >>purchase
> >>another Audi.  Just though I'd share.  Any BTDT's or advice most
> >>welcome.
> >>
> >
>
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