[Re: [Re: [s-cars] Re: 95.5 S6 does not start after storage]]

Sun May 11 21:40:28 EDT 2003

Still trying to get the S6 started. Jumped the fuel pump relay sucessfully,
but the car still only cranks but does not start.

What could keep the VAG-COM from communicating with all the modules except the
engine module?

Any other advice would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org> wrote:
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> Chris,
>
> Look at the relay, probably on the bottom perhaps on the side.  Note that
> each pin of the relay has its own number which is used to identify the pins

> from the circuit diagram.  There will be a wiring diagram from which you
> should be able to determine which carry the voltage to the pump.  There are

> multiple pins IIRC but two pins will schematically show wires connected to
> either end of an electromagnet, indicated by a coil of wire around a
> rod.  There will (should) also be an arrow which is indicated to be
> magnetically coupled to the coil.  The idea is that when the coil is
> energized the magnet "pulls" the wire indicated as the arrow to make
> contact with another internal wire, probably shown as connected to a small
> round button picture.  The "arrow" contacts the "button" when the relay is
> closed (turned on).  The two load wires are the "arrow wire" and the
> "button wire".  Mate them up to their corresponding pins of the relay and
> then, in turn to the corresponding positions of the socket and insert the
> jumper into those two socket holes so that the jumper wires make contact
> with the internal connectors of the socket.
>
> Depending on how good your ears are and how loud your fuel pump is you may
> hear the fuel pump start up when contact is made.  Then again, you may
> not.  It's also possible that it won't start up until the ignition switch
> is turned on.  I'm not sure which way the 95.5 S6 is wired up.  Either way,

> if the reason the car won't start is due to  a faulty fuel pump relay it
> should now be ready to start because the FP relay is no longer part of the
> picture.
>
> Good luck.  I hope this actually is your problem because its an easy one to

> solve.  Please let me know how it turns out.
>
> At 07:44 PM 5/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >I have my jumper in hand.
> >
> >How do I identify the "two load connectors"?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org> wrote:
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> > > I second Kneale's nomination, Chris.  That would definitely be my first
> > > suspect.  A jumper wire between the two load connectors of the FPR
socket
> > > will tell the story.  If you insert a jumper and the car will start you
can
> >
> > > drive it that way but don't leave the jumper in when you park the
> > > car.  This is only a "hold things together until I can get the right
part"
> > > solution.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:40 PM 5/11/2003 -0400, Kneale Brownson wrote:
> > >
> > > >Fuel pump relay?
> > > >
> > > >At 05:25 PM 05/11/2003 -0400, Christopher Gharibo wrote:
> > > >>I need help in getting my S6 started after it was stored in the
> > garage for
> >6
> > > >>months. The car started fine pre-storage.
> > > >>
> > > >>Basically, the engine cranks fine, but does not start. I dont hear a
> >priming
> > > >>sound on the S6 when I turn the ignition on like I do with my CQ. The
> >fuel
> > > >>pump fuse is OK.
> > > >>
> > > >>I tried to log on to the engine by using VAG-COM, but couldnt,
although I
> > > >>could log on to other modules.
> > > >>
> > > >>What is the component that pumps fuel pre-start?
> > > >>
> > > >>Any help would be highly appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks for all the help,
> > > >>CG
> > > >>
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