[s-cars] snow tires

Kirby Smith kirby.a.smith at verizon.net
Thu Nov 20 15:41:38 EST 2003


As a point of curiosity, Scott, have you ever compared the [Yoko]
Guardex 600s to Blizzaks.  Like the Blizzaks, the Guardex tread blocks
are microcellular foam.  Unlike the Blizzaks, they are [supposedly] foam
all the way down, and reinforced with nylon fiber, with claims of having
micro studs.  At a minimum this provides significant life extension. 
Anyway, I've used them for some time on my 90q, and they work well on
ice and hardpack.  

When the snow is falling though, I use my S6 with the Q's.

kirby 


QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:
> 
> Agree Kirby, those molding nubs make the Q's a bit squirrelly when new.  When
> I hauled the brand new Blizzack WS50's to Steamboat last year, the track boys
> mentioned the same thing about the BX too.  They said they perform best at
> 200mi>.  WRT Q's vs NRW's, it's "sipe" vs "tread".  The Q's advantage is the
> Blizzack type sipe (the razor cuts in the tread to increase grip), the NRW
> advantage is strictly tread.  I ran both the Q's and the NRW's at Steamboat, IME/O
> the Q's rule, and are as close as you can get to the awesome traction of the
> BX, with a better mileage life.
> 
> We ran the Q's on the S2 Rally car before they were officially introduced a
> few years ago, and the all around usefulness of that tire was impressive (snow,
> gravel, ice, water).  Blizzacks still rule the ice tho, I just wish the
> sidewall was stiffer.  I'm a big fan of the P210 as a all around winter tire with a
> great stiff sidewall. There are better tires in any specific evaluation,
> tough to beat overall.
> 
> Scott Justusson
> 205/60 Q's on 15x7 Fuchs - Winter driving
> 205/60 WS50s on 15x7 Fuchs - in da trunk to steamboat
> 195/65 P210 on 15x6
> 205/60 P210 on 15x7
> 
> Previous Steamboat tire tests, posted to lists, in respective order (and IMO,
> preference):
> WS50 Blizzacks
> Hakka Q's
> Pirelli Winter P210
> Hakka NRW
> Hakka 10's
> Michilen artic Alpins
> 
> In a message dated 11/19/2003 12:14:12 PM Central Standard Time,
> kirby.a.smith at verizon.net writes:
> P.S.  Don't evaluate the Q's handling until you have worn off the mold
> sprues (nipples) that are present on each of the 2200 sipes.  Until then
> the driving is a bit "hairy."
> 
> :)
> 
> kirby


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