[s-cars] Re: S-CAR-List digest, Vol 1 #1998 - 15 msgs

[Kirby Smith]

Yeah, my 80 Scirocco and a later 84 were rust magnets.

kirby

"Larry C. Leung" wrote:
>
> Very true, however, retooling for finishing the cars would still have had
> to been done.
> I imagine (not that I've had experience in designing equipment for
> outdoor exposure,
> just inside industrial with NEMA explosion proof ratings and submarine
> reactors fittings)
> that the retooling for production level finishing probabably would not
> have been feasible for
> a car that was being phased out in 2 yrs, so I imagine that is why Audi
> didn't galvanize the
> 85-87 type '85's, which I do know this to be true. I did have an 84, but
> my best friend's 85
> and another friend's 87 weren't galvanized. Still, for whatever reason,
> the cars seemed
> remarkable rust resistant to the metal worm, though surface rust was an
> issue. They certainly
> were much bettter fighting corrosion than BMW's and even VW's of the
> time, although the A2
> series of Golf/Jetta/GTi's seemed better than their A1
> (Rabbit/Scirocco/Jetta) predecessors in
> that respect.
>
> LL - NY
>
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:09:57 -0500 Kirby Smith
> <kirby.a.smith at verizon.net> writes:
> > It is conceivable, however, that a body made with ungalvanized sheet
> > metal could be galvanized after welding.  The necessary technique
> > to
> > eliminate spangle for ease of later painting was published in
> > Design
> > News or Machine Design in the early '70s.  This was ignored by the
> > Detroit-based car manufacturers, who had a vested interest in
> > minimizing
> > sheet metal longevity.
> >
> > My understanding of Audi's process is a hot dip galvanizing
> > follow-up to
> > welded galvanized steel sheet.  Thus, the second part of the
> > process
> > could have been applied to the later 4000s as a step toward the
> > full
> > process.  Not having owned a 4000, I can't say for sure.
> >
> > kirby
> >
> >
> > l.leung at juno.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Type 85's were not galvanized. It's a major process to begin
> > > to galvanize something and still be able to undergo follow up
> > > operations (such as welding panels together) to assemble a car
> > > body, so that full galvanized cars such as the type44, B4's and
> > > the like MUST be designed as such from the start (at least in
> > > mass production). Thus the type 85 (later 4000's, 80's elsewhere,
> > > and CGTs) weren't ever galvanized, to retrofit for a car in
> > > it's waning years would have been financially tough to justify.
> > >
> > > The only car I've heard of that underwent such a retrofit to
> > > galvaninzing without a major redesign was the 77 Porsche type
> > 901,
> > > which, of course, is a horse of a totally different color (and,
> > > more importantly, price point and subsequent customer base).
> > >
> > > LL - NY
> > >
> > > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?= <vfregeac at sympatico.ca>
> > > To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > Subject: RE : [s-cars] AAN 20VT in 4000CS
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:24:00 -0500
> > >
> > > Bill and Paul,
> > >
> > > >From my experience with the '85 CGT, I think the older 4000 were
> > not
> > > galvanized but the later - 85 to 87 - were. I don=92t see how my
> > CGT would
> > > have resist 5 winters with paint chips the size of a dollar bill -
> > I
> > > won't comment on the 5 years with paint chips - on the hood if it
> > was
> > > not galvanized. After 5 years of salt and snow, I had only surface
> > rust.
> > >
> > > Vincent
> > >
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