[s-cars] FW: RS2 Exhaust Manifold Install Helpful Hints
Cody Payne
cpayne at bconnected.com
Tue Nov 18 10:54:48 EST 2003
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Gents...a few valuable tips from Sir Todd Kramer that I thought I would add=
to the S-Cars DB of knowledge....
Thx Todd
cp
Cody,
Not that I have the definative answer to the install, but I have done 4...s=
end me your mailing address, and if any help, I will mail you my 12mm modif=
ied wrenches that will speed the installation of the manifold .. they are s=
imiliar to previous posts on what to do to the wrenches, but I have found t=
hese 12mm wrenches really speed the process of the install.
Go to http://www.urs4.com/technical/engine/UrS4_exhaust.html for the mod t=
o the 15mm wrench ... I used a standard 15mm with the exhaust removed ... n=
o big issue.
Helpful Hints:
1=2E Penetrating oil on all nuts to be removed. Problem areas: Accordian =
Pipe, Exhaust to turbo, turbo to manifold bolts. I have sheared numerous t=
urbo studs off; this will incorporate a four day turn around with your loca=
l machine shop to tap them out. Do it the night before as you ponder your =
task...
2=2E Consumables:
a. ALL gaskets need to be replaced; they are not cheap. I used ECS tun=
ing because they could get them to me quick and were competive with most sh=
ops (Accordian pipe gaskets, exhaust to turbo, turbo to manifold, manifold =
to head, oil lines (top, bottom, and block ... I bought material from Check=
ers and cut my own))
b. Nuts and bolts: the only hardware you can re-use (Bentley's Rule) a=
re the header and turbo studs and the exhaust manifold washers. The manifo=
ld bolts are a $2.50 (each) dealer only item (these are a non-negotiable re=
placement item ... they are also used to attach the accordian pipe. The on=
ly I reused my best manifold bolts with the accordian pipe, but used new fo=
r the remainder. The turbo to manifold bolts are $11.00 (ea) dealer only i=
tem .. I re-used mine and have no leaks (14 months)
c. PENTOSIN antifreeze ... you will lose almost all of your coolant ..=
just drain it all ... and beware the lower coolant hose on the bottom of t=
he turbo .. the head hold about a liter of coolant that will end up on the =
floor of your garage...position your basin accordingly.
3=2E Removing the turbo: Disconnect the lower oil line at the block. Thi=
s makes the re-installation a breeze. Trying to attach the lower oil retur=
n line from underneath the car is a royal bitch. I also pulled the wastega=
te before pulling the turbo ... made access to the manifold/turbo bolts muc=
h easier. Be careful, I have sheared a WG stud or two in my times. (See P=
enetrating oil comment)
4=2E Cut the studs like on the link ... before you do this, thread your ol=
d manifold stud bolts on, with flat face out, this is a great way to make s=
ure you chase the threads as you back them off. I cut #4,5,6 on the top an=
d bottom ... my last intall was an IA RS2 manifold, so it had some castings=
that needed to be ground to ease installation.
5=2E If you have my 12mm wrenches (send address), they make the lower nuts=
less of a PITA to install, and the box end will allow you to tighten them =
as best as can be done. Yeah, they are short and will required a million r=
epetions ... but they are much quicker than a standard wrench or socket. I=
would also suggest in investing in a 12mm gear wrench from Sears. The tri=
ck to tightening all the bolts is to put the manifold on the studs, finger =
tighten the corner studs to hold it in place, then install the rest of the =
bolts. Tighten all bolts to a 1/3 of the total length of the stud ... thre=
e iterations. With the manifold against the head, some of the heads of the=
bolts will bind such that you cannot get a wrench on them ... it will be p=
ainfully obvious if you tighten one too much...
6=2E Once the manifold is on, get the bolts as tight as a six point box en=
d will let you ... the bolts are a copper alloy and will round very easily =
.=2E. so don't get greedy. Some bolts are easier to get to from underneath=
the car.
7=2E Re-install the turbo, remember to fill the top oil hole with oil befo=
re you connect the oil line. I used a syringe and spun the compressor whee=
l to fill the housing with oil...keeps from dryspinning the turbine shaft. =
I used teflon paste on the water lines ... cheap insurance agains future l=
eaks. I also used permatex non-hardening gasket compound to help seal the =
oil lines
8=2E Re-install the Wastegate
9=2E Install the downpipe loosely so you can, simultaneously, re-attached =
the accordian pipe. This can be difficult... When tightening the exhaust =
to the turbo, cross-tighten the nuts so you ensure a good seal .. top right=
, bottom left, top left, bottom right x 2 ... sequentially tighten/torque t=
he bolts (70% torque, 100% torque) ... this helps not deform the gasket as =
you create the seal.
10. Once everything is back together, re-fill the coolant, fire her up and=
check for:
a. Oil Line leaks, top and bottom (gasket compound)
b. Coolant leaks, top and bottom (teflon paste)
c. Listen for exhaust leaks (clicks or puffing sounds); I used a 2-foo=
t piece of hose to listen to the top and bottom of each cylinder and at the=
turbo connections and exhaust connections.. kinda like a stethascope (sp?)=
, make the puffing very obvious ... if you hear something, tighten that spo=
t and re-check.
11. After a tank of gas, re-do step 10 to make sure everything survived th=
e heat-cycles of day to day driving.
Have fun.
Todd Kramer
'95 S6
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