[s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Thu Oct 16 22:14:43 EDT 2003

David,

We can't get an S2 to Canada... yet. But in 2005, we will. The first
S2s, AFAIK, were built in 90 and, in 2005, they will be 15 years old and
we are allowed to import whatever car we want if it's 15 years old.
Someone already imported a Slavic urQ. I don't remember exactly where it
came from, but, IIRC, the total cost was par with buying an urQ in N.A.
And it was Euro-spec, ie 50hp more and I suspect a much better OEM
suspension/brake setup. For the RS2, I'm afraid you'll have to wait
2008. But, you know what, next year, the urQ 20vt will be 15 years old!
A good way to wait for the RS2 ;-) They are not stealth at all, but,
IMHO, they are the best looking Coupe Audi ever made.

One point not solved yet: When it's legally imported to Canada based on
the 15 years rule, can you then import the car to the US. Nobody had a
final answer on this point... yet.

Oh, by the way, an Audi S1 Quattro Group B, built in 2001 can be
imported right now. Mobile.de have one for sale. Do you have 200,000
Euro laying around ;-)

Vincent
urS6, at least until 2004

-----Message d'origine-----
De : s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com] De la part de David Anderson
Envoyé : 16 oct. 2003 17:48
À : Gabriel Caldwell; Dan B; s-car-list at audifans.com
Objet : Re: [s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Be careful of who does the conversion.  I have seen several that some
expenses were spared in the beginning and they sure seem to spend time
at
the shop.  Nothing like a 10-13yr old car with more money dropped into
it
than a new S car off the lot.
But,  the lightweight coupe does have it's appeal.  If only there was a
"grey market" to get one in the states.

Gabriel,
Can you get S2's into Canada at all?
My wife is from the Okanogan  BC area and has kept her Canadian
citizenship
so I have always kept it in the back of my head that if I could get a
car in
her name, I'd be happy to drive it with BC plates.

Dave A
95 S6 Avant
Mpls, MN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel Caldwell" <gabriel at ts.bc.ca>
To: "Dan B" <berar at sprint.ca>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Well, it is a 20vt.  The advantage is a smaller, more nimble, and
lighter
car.  Some might say prettier too.  If you already have a CQ and you can
find an engine from a wreck it's fairly cheap too.

Gabriel Caldwell
Tsunami Solutions Ltd.
#202 - 2055 Boundary Road
Vancouver, BC Canada V5M 3Z1
voice: 604.299.5855
fax: 604.648.8158
e-mail: gabriel at ts.bc.ca
url: www.tsunamisolutionsltd.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan B [mailto:berar at sprint.ca]
Sent: October 16, 2003 2:09 PM
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't an Audi S2 simply
a CQ/90 already with the AAN 2.2 turbo engine?
Or is it something completely different?

What is the advantage of owning an S2/CQ conversion
as compared to an ur S4/S6?

Cheers,

Dan B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Frégeac" <vfregeac at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Clayton Howes'" <linksvu at hotmail.com>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:28 PM
Subject: RE : [s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Clayton,

Here is the difference, pros and cons, AFAIK:
Pros 90-91 CQ - Cons V6 90
- This swap have been done so many times on a CQ there is a list about
that, but I haven't seen one on a V6 90 - doesn't means it haven't been
done or it's not feasible.
- The CQ is lighter but it may be only due to the V6 on the later 90.
- The CQ with a B4 hood is much nicer than a 90 - I know, it's a matter
of taste.

Equal:
- Both cars have center torsen, lockable rear diff and open front diff
- I think both cars have foldable rear seats

Pro V6 90 - Cons 90-91CQ
- The design of the suspension on the V6 90 is more refined
- The 90 have for doors - is it really a pro, it's a matter of taste
again.

I think, except if you're an expert of engine swap or you know someone
who has already done several swap of 20VT in a V6 90, you should go with
the CQ as there much more knowledge to share about this swap.

Vincent

-----Message d'origine-----
De : s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com] De la part de Clayton Howes
Envoyé : 14 oct. 2003 00:21
À : s-car-list at audifans.com
Objet : [s-cars] Difference between the 90S and the CQ

Hey knowledgable list guys,  I have a quick question for anybody that
can
answer it.  I think my next project is going to be taking either a
mid-90's
90 Sport or a 90-91 Coupe Quattro and putting in the AAN donor I will
probably have here soon.  It seems that it can be done, althought not
super
easy.  So if anyone has a bit of light to share on that, much
appreciated.

However, my questions is this:  between, say a '94 90 and the 91 CQ,
what is
the true difference?  I believe the CQ still has the locking rear diff,
as
my 92 S4 does.  However, doesn't the CQ have the Torsen center diff (not
exactly sure)?  If so, does the 90 have the same?   Any other driveline
difference's?  Can do the the same mods between the two; the AAN w/ some
RS2
parts and a CRB?  Does the rear seat fold down in the 90, or at least a
pass-through?  Anything else I should know before I go looking?

Thank you in advance for your help...

CT Howes

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