[s-cars] RE: Confessions of indiscretions

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James:
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In a message dated 10/22/2003 8:22:00 AM Central Daylight Time,
jbufkin at austin.rr.com writes:
>I personally don't see anything wrong with taking a UrS4/S6 to the track or
>trying to improve its trackability.

When does it stop?  More specifically from a philisophical question, when and
how is the driver improving his trackability?  The S car is a flaw in the
very argument.

>With respect Scott, I don't see the connection your making.. Didn't Audi
>put a highly modified 200 TQ
>into competition with a 20V motor?

No that was a 10vt motor actually, in both Rally and Trans Am.  At a time
when the dominance of awd was used as a marketing tool to sell cars.  And
according to the poster in my office, at under 2500lbs wet.

>Hence, every mod that lister's make
>are in some ways hommage to that effort.

Not sure I'd make that jump with you.  Every mod a lister makes is hopefully
an hommage to his own ego.  The effort of Audisport and how they accomplished
what they did is pretty well documented.  To start, I can't remember one that
weighed over 3000lbs in competition form.

>Eventually of course if someone was to go full circle they could make a
>similar car and I would say that is a good track car.

Specific to this list, full circle would be oxymoronic, since no factory
effort was made with the S car.  For some documentation on the S car, the results
of Ivor Wiggam's efforts pretty much speak for themselves.  Totally stripped,
I don't think he got close to 3000lbs.  That's a '95 M3 in full street trim.

>I can understand from a bang for buck perspective to sink money into a 5000
>quattro or a 4000 quattro, but many people
>don't have the space for two or more cars and don't wish to tackle having
>to maintain two cars.  I've made the same argument
>your making at one time, and that is the most common response from people.

It's a calculator, that's all.  You can maintain/upgrade an expensive one, or
use that same money to have 2, including storage for it.

>I'm just curious, How many UrS4s have been totalled by their owners on the
>track?

I will let those guilty parties self confess.  I'm an advocate of better
driving before better equipment.  Once a better driver, the equipment and it's fit
for use becomes self evident.  Very possibly at the expense of these track
dances with miss piggy.

SJ