[s-cars] RE: 1st gear tranny noises, cont'd

[Trevor Frank]

What is the going rate for a hardened main shaft, no wider first 6
speed,  I may have one available soon, either that or a hardened and
wide first box.

What are the prices for each of the above with little use and in good
shape.  The wider first and hardened main shaft trans will be recently
rebuilt.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Caldwell
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:39 AM
To: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK); s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: 1st gear tranny noises, cont'd

Heh, I know the feeling.  I have a DSY collecting dust just in case.

Gabriel Caldwell


-----Original Message-----
From: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK) [mailto:WQQ2PXK at ups.com]
Sent: April 26, 2004 9:04 AM
To: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: [s-cars] RE: 1st gear tranny noises, cont'd


Dave Forgie offered, then Fred further conferred:

<<<To elaborate on Dave F's post, there are two "tranny noises"
associated
with
early UrS4 transmissions.

The first is the pinion bearing noise described in Dave's post. It is
speed
related, independent of the gear the tranny is in, and when entering
it's
terminal phase has been described as sounding like a jet engine during
take-off.

The second is first gear noise. As Dave mentions, it is caused by
galling
first gear by over-enthusiastic use of the loud pedal while in said gear
or
by spinning tires (on ice, snow, wet or dry asphalt) while in first
gear. It
is only heard when the tranny is in first gear. Audi installed a wider
first
gear in the late '95 cars to resolve this issue. The high performance
Euro
cars (mit 6 speeds) got a hardened first gear set.>>>





To further elaborate...

I had my 5gang torn down by local tranny shop upon install of the 6gang.
My
1st gear was doing the 2nd noise noted above here for 25k of aggressive
use
(90-115k, toward the end I was even TRYING to grenade the thing,
literally).
They pointed out the most minimal and barely noticeable (to me at least)
galling on the mainshaft, not 1st gear itself.  Said would likely have
stayed that way forever, which is what I had suspected (never got
louder).
Was amazed at the general condition of the internals considering the
grenade
attempts I'd made...  looked fabulous, I was pissed.

So, if one can live with the noise associated w/ this issue, no need to
spend ~ $2,250 to address it (not including the removal / install
labor).
Unless you just want a 6gang 8-).  Noise isn't that bad really, compared
to
pinion noise at least.  Just ask Rossato, he who lives w/ galling 1st
gear
noise at a mere 60k, while pretty new CMG sits sleepy in garage, lonely,
getting dusty, heh heh...


HTH, YMMV.

-Paul 6gang still loud via aluminum flywheel K.


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