[s-cars] Re: front end 'pop / clunk / clank / boom'

[Larry C Leung]

Waddya expect? Even the newest of them (Igor...) is 7 years
old. And then we tweak-em to performance levels beyond
(sometimes WELL beyond) what the factory had planned. Then
we push-em. So they break. Oh well. 

I think part of the issue is that these cars basic structure is designed
to last a "normal" life on the autobahn where they probably (don't know
for sure, any Euro listers that can contribute here?) crap out in about
10 yrs. On the left side of the pond, other than the track, its hard to 
do consistent 100 mph (160 km/hr) runs, at least legally. So the car's
basic structure seems to last, while the normal things start to break. 

I think that the only thing that'll keep any of these things going is 
maintenance, replacement, etc., kind of like aircraft. Heck, the only
reason my GTi made it through 10 yrs of highly competitive Autocross
(through Divisional level) is through such a program, AND the fact that
the car is so (relatively) slow, and (absolutely) light, it really
couldn't
hurt itself. It took a major storm felling a tree to kill that car. :-(

Besides, if our cars didn't break, would Dan have ever had a reason
to start the original Q-list? Yeah, I'd venture a guess that S-cars.org
would've still existed, but then the only other forum would've been 
Audiworld, and then we'd be bitching about what color tail-lights we
should put on our non-breaking (yet) A4's....

LL - NY


On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:38:01 -0700 "Bob DG" <bobs6 at msn.com> writes:
> Anyone noticed that most of our cars have become gigantic piles of 
> crap? 
> Very depressing.
> 
> >From: Larry C Leung <l.leung at juno.com>
> >To: WQQ2PXK at ups.com
> >CC: s-car-list at audifans.com
> >Subject: [s-cars] Re: front end 'pop / clunk / clank / boom'
> >Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:41:38 -0500
> >
> >PK,
> >
> >IMHE (experience), CV joints will not simply "pop" once
> >during a manuver, but clunk as long as there is motion,
> >in direct relationship to speed. Had this happen in my
> >much abused (Auto-X'd) GTi thrice, and believe it or not,
> >in the beater Subie, now going on it's second (and last,
> >it's going to become a tax break shortly). Outers tend to
> >be most noticable when the car is turned and the afflicted
> >CV is on the outside of the turn, never had an inner fail.
> >
> > >From what I've heard, I'd say CV's should be far down on
> >the suspect list. Now, time to go ponder. Go get another
> >beer...
> >
> >LL - NH
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:06:46 -0500
> > > From: "Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)" <WQQ2PXK at ups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] front end 'pop / clunk / clank / boom'
> > > To: DGraber460 at aol.com, wmahoney at disk.com, 
> s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> ><5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F608DCC51C at njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com>
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> > >
> > > Baloney and Dennis CV'd:
> > >
> > >  <<< -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DGraber460 at aol.com [mailto:DGraber460 at aol.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:20 PM
> > > To: wmahoney at disk.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > Cc: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] front end 'pop / clunk / clank / boom'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/1/2004 2:56:03 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> > > wmahoney at disk.com writes:
> > >
> > > P Klunk,
> > >
> > > Can you say CeeeeVeeee joint?
> > >
> > > Piece O cake since trans is out anyhoo.
> > >
> > > My .oo2 ~  ICBW.
> > >
> > > Bill m
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Agreed!
> > > Other components go "clunk," but CVs go Boom!
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > > Denver >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the input gents (and you Bill)...
> > >
> > > Wouldn't a going-CV exhibit also other symptoms than 1) a clunk 
> /
> > > pop / boom
> > > at full lock during 3 pt turn 2) shuddering at decelerative 85
> > > mph???  Like
> > > fussiness during launches, grinding, rotational thudding, etc.?
> > > Never had
> > > one let go to know...
> > >
> > > Tx again for thoughts and thoughtless.
> > >
> > > -Paul lots noises and issues and things going on seemingly 
> always
> > > but with
> > > all the right sillybits in place that somehow erases all the
> > > issues??? K.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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