[s-cars] Re: Suspension Upgrade

[Noah]

My impressions of Bilstein Sport / Eibach +20mm spacer:

I am sorely tempted to go back to my stock 92 springs and see if the HSRB 
will take care of the roll. When I first put the BS/E combo on, sans spacer, 
I was very happy with the ride, but the ass sat too low. As in, scraping 
EVERYTHING I go over... EVERYTHING. So, I install the 20mm spacer from ECS 
and the ride height is spot on, but now I still have two complaints. 1) The 
change in the rear height moved some weight to the front of the car, and the 
front end feels worse now. I resented the fact that I would need to purchase 
a spacer to make the product work in the first place, and now that I have it 
installed and the ride suffered, I am even more annoyed. 2) The car is still 
way too low. I will scrape on any burly speedbump I try to go over. The 
other day I had two passengers on the rear, and I actually scraped going 
over a manhole in a recently repaved section of road. A MANHOLE for 
chrissake!

My stock springs are going back on. I'd love to sell these Eibach springs to 
one of you guys. They have been on for ~6months.

As for H&Rs, I bet they are better. I had the red (race) H&Rs on my 5kcstq 
and I loved them. They had a very balanced ride, and for whatever reason 
they didn't seem to cause me to scrape going over every little thing. 
Another data point, with my red H&Rs I ran the boge turbogas, and they were 
a perfect match.... even though one would think they would be too stiff for 
the cheap little BTGs to handle.

My advice: Put the stuff on one piece at a time. I skipped putting on just 
struts, and I think that's how I screwed up. Now, to find out if I would 
prefer it that way, I'll haveto take everything apart again and take a lot 
more time that if I had done it that way first.

-Noah
YMMV and my car is a '92 so my springs don't totally suck.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry C Leung" <l.leung at juno.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Cc: <evan.desjardins at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:59 AM
Subject: [s-cars] Re: Suspension Upgrade


> Evan,
>
> I'm running Eibach/Bilstein (shox.com) WITH rear spacer (make sure
> you get those or the back will sag). Overall ride quality is VERY similar
> to stock, SLIGHTLY less roll, but best of all, the damping rates of the
> Bilsteins matches nearly perfectly with the Eibachs. H+R's are stiffer,
> so,
> like my 200Q, which is H+R/Bilstein, I'd expect that the off the shelf
> Bilsteins would be underdamped with the H+R's. I do believe that you
> can get custom shock valving from Bilsteins (it's, as I recall, only
> $35/shock),
> but I have NO idea what valving you should have if you go the H+R route.
> BTW, I ultimately will go HRSB to get rid of the roll and gain a little
> turn-in.
>
> LL - NY
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>> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:24:44 -0500
>> From: Evan Desjardins <evan.desjardins at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [s-cars] Suspension Upgrade
>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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>> S-Fiends,
>>
>> Well, I think the time has come to take another slide down the
>> slippery slope.  My rear passenger quarter is doing a lot of
>> "thunka-thunka-clunka-clunka" over bumps so it's time to take the
>> plunge and get a sport suspension.
>>
>> I've been looking at ECS Tuning and they have a package with H&R
>> Sport
>> Springs & Bilstein Sport Shocks for $769.95.  I also need to
>> purchase
>> the camber plates to correct the alignment for $239.95.
>>
>> I guess I have several questions about this upgrade.  Is this all
>> that
>> I need?  Has anyone had good luck with a setup like this, or would
>> you
>> recommend something else?  Finally, is this a good price or is it
>> possible to put less money into Miss Piggy Bank for these parts?
>>
>> Thanks for your wisdom and insanity!
>>
>> Evan
>> '95 //S6
>>
>>
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