[s-cars] Chip - best choice

Joseph Pizzimenti pizzoman at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 20 20:48:33 EST 2004


Yeah, I suppose we should all buy VMAPs now, the hell
with trying to do performance mods.

And I always thought it was just, air, fuel and spark
this whole time.  Good thing guys are here to convince
me to spend my money wisely and buy a variable
pressure transducer that I probably don't need.

Joe, overpriced and useless HKS boost controller and
stepper motor now on the market so I can get a VMAP,
Pizzo

--- Trevor Frank <tfrank at symyx.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't quite get what you are saying here.  This is
> against putting in
> any aftermarket chip in your car other than MTM, or
> for that matter
> doing any mods past RS2 huh.
> 
> 
> So for very custom ECU work ... If the company
> doesn't have the type of
> access such as MTM has with the Audi development
> team - I personally
> will remain a
> little skeptical unless there was numerous years of
> real technical
> experience
> and/or years of testing with certain proposed
> modifications.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FvAMI at aol.com [mailto:FvAMI at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:45 PM
> To: pizzoman at yahoo.com; bobfrizzell at shaw.ca;
> s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Chip - best choice
> 
> In a message dated 1/20/04 8:56:29 AM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> pizzoman at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> 
> > Hey, Feicky, don't you make a couple bucks on
> every
> > VMAP they sell?
> >
> > I sense a little tuner war in the making here....
> >
> > Joe, emotionally neutral on this one, Pizzo
> >
> >
> I have developed code for the ECU but have it for
> personal use only ...
> so
> not starting a tuner war.
> 
> I am one of the key designers, firmware developers
> and oversee the
> manufacturing and calibration of each VMAP unit ...
> 
> It fulfilled my need which was torque limiting in
> first gear (not
> available
> for sale yet - QA cycles are 6 months normally),
> being able to switch
> back to
> stock for California emissions testing and reducing
> the boost threshold
> when
> necessary due to the 91 octane gas and being able to
> get the full
> potential when
> filling up with 100 octane. As an added benefit to
> the rest of the UrS4,
> RS2
> owners the VMAP is available to all.
> 
> Considering the IP (Intellectual property), the R&D
> time and
> manufacturing
> costs it is far from being a huge revenue generator.
> It is more complex
> and 10
> times less profitable than doing ECU chips ... so
> really the end users
> are
> getting the real benefit from it.
> 
> There are many future firmware releases available
> which I want to use
> for
> myself ... and to keep costs reasonable will be
> released according to
> the units
> sold. Each one is upgradable in the future.
> 
> It's here now and here to stay. There are now plenty
> of decent chip
> solutions
> out there. I am of course partial to the integrators
> that are doing the
> upgrade with a VMAP and others are welcome to become
> qualified ...
> considering what
> you get anything less than an upgrade with a VMAP is
> simply not a real
> upgrade in my book.
> 
> The pricing, workmanship and support of the upgrade
> from our integration
> 
> group is the best in the business! Not to say others
> are not as good.
> IMO (from an
> engineering perspective) the chips that are
> available today are hard to
> beat.
> If you have access to enough electrical and
> mechanical engineering
> knowledge
> you may be able to squeeze a little more but without
> it you could start
> exceeding the edge of the envelope.
> 
> So for very custom ECU work ... If the company
> doesn't have the type of
> access such as MTM has with the Audi development
> team - I personally
> will remain a
> little skeptical unless there was numerous years of
> real technical
> experience
> and/or years of testing with certain proposed
> modifications.
> 
> Best regards,
> Feico van der Laan
> 
> 
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