[s-cars] Chevron Gas with Techron (MBTE) in Canada

[Ned Ritchie]

MBTE
It is a big mess in California.  Cities are having to shut down wells
that are contaminated.  There is NO WAY to get it out of the ground
water.
Ned

http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/192.html

It is also a politically hot issue with cover ups.
http://www.nader.org/interest/101703.html

Do a Google search on   --  mtbe california water

51,400 hits!


-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces+q=intendedacceleration.com at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces+q=intendedacceleration.com at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Marinello
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:54 PM
To: Dave Forgie; s-car-list at audifans.com; Robert Myers
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Chevron Gas with Techron (MBTE) in Canada

And MTBE, the curse of Clean Air Act II, was rushed into use based on a
blatantly faulted two year test in the Denver area.  At the original
test
concentrations, people were pulling over on I10 heading up the hill and
puking their guts out.  When I first moved out there, I was staying with
friends and after Jim got the first tank with the stuff and parked the
car
in the garage, we were all sitting in the kitchen, a door (with seal)
away
from the garage and all started feeling sick 15 minutes later.  Lousy,
miserable sick.  A fellow prof at Mines called in sick one day after
losing
her dinner on the way back up to Everboost and was sick for two days.
The
stuff is virtually water-miscible, which means it gets into any aqueous
phase and is hell to get out of an aquifer that has been contaminated.
Leaky old fuel lines?  Plan to get one hell of a headache.

Test done in the Mountain West; big push to implement from D.C. and the
Left
Coast...which was also the first to recognize that it was  BIG mistake!

Just my $.02 of memories.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Myers" <robert at s-cars.org>
To: "Dave Forgie" <forgied at ae.ca>; <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Chevron Gas with Techron (MBTE) in Canada


> At 06:04 PM 1/23/2004 -0700, Dave Forgie wrote:
>
> >Brent:  I don't know where you are but I am in Vancouver BC and I can
get
> >94 (RON+MON)/2 from every Chevron and PetroCan in the lower mainland
> >(anti-smog measures).  Outside the Lower Mainland, 91 or 92 is always
> >available.  In Alberta, there are Chevrons but I think only 91 or 92
(no
> >94) (As far as I remember from last May).
> >
> >By the way isn't MBTE very close to toluene??
>
> Not at all!  Toluene is an aromatic hydrocarbon.  It contains a
benzene
> ring and has a methyl group (-CH3) attached to it.
>
> MTBE is methyl tertiary-butyl ether,  I has the same methyl group
attached
> to an oxygen with is then attached to a tertiary-butyl group -C(CH3)3
>
> These two compounds are almost totally different in their chemistry
and
> also their environmental effects.
>
> Toluene can be used as an octane booster.  MTBE is used as a fuel
> oxygenator designed to reduce emissions of unburned hydrocarbons.  It
> actually lowers the fuel's energy content.
>
> ____
>
> Quit bitching.  Start a revolution.
>
> Bob
> *****
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>
>


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