[s-cars] Springs - Springs & more Springs

Mark Strangways Strangconst at rogers.com
Wed Jun 16 00:43:13 EDT 2004


1993 CAD S4 here with eibachs and bilsteins..
lowered, but ofcourse... NEVER has it bottomed...
I have scraped over speed bumps, but that is not the springs fault at all.
On my cottage "offroading" road, basically 2 gravel trails with grass in the
middle, I have yet to have the suspension compress to the point where it
bottoms out as I read into your post. Not to say I have never scraped
bottom, that was the beers fault, and the turbo's fault.. not mine... I
swear... :-)

Mark S
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:09 AM
Subject: [s-cars] Springs - Springs & more Springs



For those of you who  are investigating changing out your springs here are
my
observations.
About a year ago I  went from stock (95.5 S6) springs to H&R 29921 (V8)
springs.   The ride improved by having more  control.  It did not feel any
stiffer, just more control.  I would  have been totally satisfied but the
ride height
was too low for my day-to-day  /winter driver S6.  This car does  not see
any
track time.  Summer car  is a Porsche.
Several months ago I  bought the Audi Euro springs in a GP.  I also bought
Bilstein HD shocks.  I installed them about two weeks ago.  I like the ride
firmness (about the same  as the H&Rs)  but my S6 is  approaching the
“Ranchero”
look again.  But will I keep them, absolutely!
Below are the  floor-to-center of the fender measurements (in inches):
USA 95.5 with Boge  shocks:  27-2/8, 27-2/8, 27-6/8,  27-3/8
H&R 29921 with  Boge shocks:  25-5/8, 25-5/8,  26-1/8, 25-6/8
Euro with Bilstein  HD shocks:  26-4/8, 26-4/8, 27-3/8,  27-0/8
Measurements are in  Left Front, Right Front, Left Rear, & Right Rear order.
My tires are half worn 225/50-16s on  AVUS rims.
Color  Codes:
USA:  Front = Yellow - Sliver - Silver      Rear = Pink - Green
Euro:  Front = Silver - Pink - Pink      Rear = Yellow - Blue -  Blue - Blue
Camber  adjustments:
USA  Stock - adjustments were basically centered in plates.
H&R 29921  - pushed adjustments to their extreme outer positions and did not
use camber  plates.  Tire wear was slightly  greater on the insides but
nothing really extreme.  Ran this way for approximately 10,000  miles.
Euro &  Bilstein - adjustments are basically centered again.
Note - none of these  adjustments were done professionally.  As long and the
alignment looks close and the car tracks down the road  perfectly straight I
did not bother spending $$ for alignment.  Maybe when my tires are going to
be
replaced I’ll get it aligned.
Other Observations  with previous cars – totally biased!
Eibachs – had them  on my UrQ and were too soft – bottomed out all the time.
 Maybe I was sold the wrong springs but I  only ran them for two weeks and
then tossed them away.
Konis – Had them on  the UrQ and on a 911.  I thought  they were just OK.
Never cared for  the adjustment feature – just too fussy.
Bilsteins – Had them  on another 911 – came with the factory sport
suspension – they rocked – loved  them.
Good luck with the  slippery slope,
Mark

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