[s-cars] Springs - Springs & more Springs

[Mtgadbois at aol.com]

Mark

I went to check my records on my old 1983 UrQ and I must have given all the 
records to the next owner.  I wanted to see what were the part numbers for the 
springs I bought - quite possibly they were the wrong ones for the car.  Upon 
reflection I think they must have been since the performance/spring rates were 
so low.  All in all the UrQ was a money pit I will never get into again. Far 
and away the most unreliable Audi I have owned and I've had 5 over the last 22 
years.

Mark

In a message dated 6/15/2004 11:43:28 PM Central Daylight Time, 
Strangconst at rogers.com writes:

> 
> 1993 CAD S4 here with eibachs and bilsteins..
> lowered, but ofcourse... NEVER has it bottomed...
> I have scraped over speed bumps, but that is not the springs fault at all.
> On my cottage "offroading" road, basically 2 gravel trails with grass in the
> middle, I have yet to have the suspension compress to the point where it
> bottoms out as I read into your post. Not to say I have never scraped
> bottom, that was the beers fault, and the turbo's fault.. not mine... I
> swear... :-)
> 
> Mark S
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Mtgadbois at aol.com>
> To: <waves at epix.net>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:09 AM
> Subject: [s-cars] Springs - Springs &more Springs
> 
> 
> 
> For those of you who  are investigating changing out your springs here are
> my
> observations.
> About a year ago I  went from stock (95.5 S6) springs to H&R 29921 (V8)
> springs.   The ride improved by having more  control.  It did not feel any
> stiffer, just more control.  I would  have been totally satisfied but the
> ride height
> was too low for my day-to-day  /winter driver S6.  This car does  not see
> any
> track time.  Summer car  is a Porsche.
> Several months ago I  bought the Audi Euro springs in a GP.  I also bought
> Bilstein HD shocks.  I installed them about two weeks ago.  I like the ride
> firmness (about the same  as the H&Rs)  but my S6 is  approaching the
> “Ranchero”
> look again.  But will I keep them, absolutely!
> Below are the  floor-to-center of the fender measurements (in inches):
> USA 95.5 with Boge  shocks:  27-2/8, 27-2/8, 27-6/8,  27-3/8
> H&R 29921 with  Boge shocks:  25-5/8, 25-5/8,  26-1/8, 25-6/8
> Euro with Bilstein  HD shocks:  26-4/8, 26-4/8, 27-3/8,  27-0/8
> Measurements are in  Left Front, Right Front, Left Rear, &Right Rear order.
> My tires are half worn 225/50-16s on  AVUS rims.
> Color  Codes:
> USA:  Front = Yellow - Sliver - Silver    Rear = Pink - Green
> Euro:  Front = Silver - Pink - Pink    Rear = Yellow - Blue -  Blue - Blue
> Camber  adjustments:
> USA  Stock - adjustments were basically centered in plates.
> H&R 29921  - pushed adjustments to their extreme outer positions and did not
> use camber  plates.  Tire wear was slightly  greater on the insides but
> nothing really extreme.  Ran this way for approximately 10,000  miles.
> Euro & Bilstein - adjustments are basically centered again.
> Note - none of these  adjustments were done professionally.  As long and the
> alignment looks close and the car tracks down the road  perfectly straight I
> did not bother spending $$ for alignment.  Maybe when my tires are going to
> be
> replaced I’ll get it aligned.
> Other Observations  with previous cars – totally biased!
> Eibachs – had them  on my UrQ and were too soft – bottomed out all the 
> time.
> Maybe I was sold the wrong springs but I  only ran them for two weeks and
> then tossed them away.
> Konis – Had them on  the UrQ and on a 911.  I thought  they were just OK.
> Never cared for  the adjustment feature – just too fussy.
> Bilsteins – Had them  on another 911 – came with the factory sport
> suspension – they rocked – loved  them.
> Good luck with the  slippery slope,
> Mark
> 
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