[s-cars] Hydraulic brake problems, more information...need help

[chris chambers]

Gabriel,

First thanks for all the input!

Well first I am having a talk with the owner of the parts store that
gave me the wrong stuff. They also do service there and I want to see
what they have to say.  If they don't do anything (I am expecting that)
what I am considering is purchasing all the parts...but starting with a
flush first. And then if I need to, start replacing parts that seem to
be bad. 

The mechanic said he discovered the booster was bad when he tried to
blead the system and the pressure was showing up in the power steering.
I belive he was stating that the accumulaor and master cylinder would
be bad because of the wrong fluid, is there a way to test it?

My question is, how can I test the components? Other than replace one
at a time? Do I have to remove the master cylinder to get to the brake
booster? Could someone point me towards an FAQ or write up?

Thanks again
Chris

PS the fluid has been in there ~3 weeks...I am not holding out much
hope that this will be inexpensive.



--- Gabriel Caldwell <gabriel at ts.bc.ca> wrote:
> Do what you want but I can't understand your logic.  I would flush
> out
> the system (very little cost) and make sure the parts actually needed
> replacing before you spend the money to do so.  That's MHO.
> 
> Gabriel Caldwell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: June 23, 2004 4:34 PM
> To: Gabriel Caldwell; Scar
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Hydraulic brake problems, more
> information...need
> help
> 
> Gabriel,
> 
> Yeah I was given the wrong stuff...but regardless the entire brake
> fluid resevoir was filled with it.  Unfortunately it has been in
> there
> for ~2 weeks so I am afraid damage has been done.
> 
> How hard is it going to be to replace these parts?
> 
> Anybody BTDT?
> 
> Thanks
> Chris
> 
> 
> --- Gabriel Caldwell <gabriel at ts.bc.ca> wrote:
> > Uhhhhhhhh.... You said you added mineral hydraulic fluid in your
> > brake
> > system instead of brake fluid.  That will definitely fcuk up your
> > braking.  Provided no damage was done, flushing it out completely
> and
> > replacing the brake fluid will definitely help.  I would start
> there
> > and
> > see what happens before dropping all that cash.
> > 
> > Gabriel Caldwell
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
> > Sent: June 23, 2004 3:02 PM
> > To: Gabriel Caldwell; Scar
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Hydraulic brake problems, more
> > information...need
> > help
> > 
> > Gabriel,
> > 
> > At this time I have basicly no brakes, the mechanic is telling me
> > that
> > the master cylinder, brake booster and brake presure accumulator
> all
> > need to be replaced because the Pentosin has damaged them.
> > 
> > The brake light doesn't flicker at all...just very poor brakes and
> > the
> > pedal goes to the floor.
> > 
> > I am assuming flushing the system won't solve the problem.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > --- Gabriel Caldwell <gabriel at ts.bc.ca> wrote:
> > > Sounds like you need to flush the Pentosin out of your brake
> > system.
> > > 
> > > Gabriel Caldwell
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
> > > Sent: June 23, 2004 2:35 PM
> > > To: Tom Black; Scar
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Hydraulic brake problems, more
> > > information...need
> > > help
> > > 
> > > Tom,
> > > 
> > > Just realized something, if I now understand correctly. The fluid
> > > that
> > > is used in the brake system isn't the green colored petosin is
> it.
> > > 
> > > If this is correct, when I replaced the seals between the
> > > mastercylinder and the resevoir the local foreign car parts place
> > > gave
> > > me the wrong stuff.
> > > 
> > > The fluid I was sold is green and comes in a white can. Two weeks
> > > after
> > > replacing these seals and using this fluid is when all this
> trouble
> > > began.
> > > 
> > > GRRRRR
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Tom Black <tblack5 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> > > > Chris, That is one bloody awful mess. 
> > > 
> > > 
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