[s-cars] Re: DRIVERS mustang vs S-Car

[Harold McComas]

Bill, while I am a fairly new s-car owner ( since Oct), I thought that the
original S cars ( that is the Euro versions) had better suspensions and
brakes? I don't think the engineers were on vacation but that Audi North
America  "Americanized" the car. I can imagine what they were thinking:  our
roads generally suck so we will soften the suspension so that  Dr. So and so
would not complain about the stiff ride when driving the wife to the country
club. Brakes, well here the speed limit is not higher than 75 mph  so big
brakes are really not needed so we can save money by placing cheaper brakes
on the car.    ;-)

Harold
85 GTI
96 S6

> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 17:49:20 -0700
> From: "Bill Clancy" <clancybill at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: DRIVERS mustang vs S-Car
> To: "R. Mair" <waves at comcast.net>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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>
> Well....
> I enjoyed your comments.   very good points.  all well said.
> I agree they are two different cars entirely.   And I drive an S6 because
I
> like it.   But I still miss my Supercoupe with the huge torque at any RPM
> and tight predictable glued-to-the-road handling -- and it was all stock.
> My stock S6 is certainly preferable on a ski trip with 4 adults, but it
just
> doesn't have that tight road feel.   I guess I am just a bit disappointed
> with the stock S6.   I wanted a well handling fast sports sedan.  Isn't
that
> why I bought an S6?  Cuz the A6 is weak and I wanted the better one?   To
> have to pay the extra cash for an S-car and then have to re-engineer it is
> to say the least, disappointing.   I have to wonder, was the Audi
S-engineer
> on vacation when they decided on the suspension and brakes?   What about
QA?
> Did anyone drive the car before releasing it to the dealer?
>
> And as I mentioned in a previous email....   The M3?   no upgrades needed.
> Maybe Audi should offer an MS6?
>
> BTW, the firebird guy sounds like a pussy.   ;-)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "R. Mair" <waves at comcast.net>
> To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:33 PM
> Subject: [s-cars] Re: DRIVERS mustang vs S-Car
>
>
> > Let's get real here. We are talking about two very different cars coming
> > from two very different driving style countries. The Ur-S4/S6 simply is
> the
> > best of all worlds. It won't do any particular thing perfectly not will
it
> > win in any individual performance class. But in an all around test of
> tests,
> > the S4 will clobber the Mustang (snow, wet test included). The second
part
> > of the issue is the driver. It takes a brilliant driver to pilot a
higher
> HP
> > RWD V8 car around a solo2 course or a track, to the point of perfection.
> > Same goes for an S4, neon, beetle-bug or whatever. The S4 due to quattro
> is
> > more forgiving and therefore a little easier to throw into corners. But
a
> > really good AWD racer (re: WRC) will know how to properly set-up a turn
> > (asphalt or dirt) in an AWD car to maintain speed and overcome
understeer
> > with a little throttle and weight transfer.
> >
> > 3 weeks ago i had the fortune to put a last gen Firebird ram-air in it's
> > place. I knew the punk driving it, he's the local hot-shoe. I pulled in
> > front of him leaving work, heading up through the twisties over a
mountain
> > towards home. Although he kept on my bumper until the first turn, i
easily
> > distanced him through a section of 3rd gear corners and even on the
> > straights he didn't get much closer than a hundred feet. All i got is a
> TAP
> > chip, K&N and a good tune, 17's and kumhos. My car is faster and better
> > handling than a Ram air??? Doubt it big time. The driver shouldn't have
> been
> > behind the wheel. Put the great local-to-me SCCA GT1Corvette driver
Kerry
> > Hitt behind the wheel and he woulda found a way around me on the outside
> > even. Anyway, take allot of schools and track time events, and your
S4/S6
> > will magically turn into a much better handling car.
> >
> > Rolf Mair
> >
> > 2002 Allroad (wifes)
> > 1994 S4
> > 1990 90 20vt
> > 1979 Zink Formula Super-Vee (forsale)