[s-cars] Died on I4, now no-start

[steve powers]

In my case, the mounting bracket came loose. The serpentine belt did what 
it's supposed to do and self-tightened the alternator into and through the 
timing belt cover. It's just plastic. Once through the cover, it proceeded 
to chew up the brand new timing belt. The cause? Improper installation of 
the mounting bracket.

It happened on our car at about 70 mph also. The symptoms described are 
identical to what we experienced. As I said earlier, we lost 16 valves and a 
head. Took about 7 weeks worth of shop time to get things right.

Steve


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Calvin & Diana Craig" <calvinlc at earthlink.net>
To: <seiche at shadetreesoftware.com>; <Kenneth_Madsen at alumni.nd.edu>; 
<s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Died on I4, now no-start


> A couple of questions:
>
> 1) You said that when you tried to crank it after the incident you didn'y
> hear anything????  How would a serpentine and timing belt cause this, 
> unless
> it totally locked the engine up in which case there is obviously lots of
> damage.
>
> 2) How deos the serpentine belt knock the timing belt off that is inside a
> cover???  Has anybody else seen this happen?
>
> Something doesn't seem right here.
>
> --Calvin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Steve Eiche
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:18 PM
> To: Kenneth_Madsen at alumni.nd.edu; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Died on I4, now no-start
>
>
> Well, IME, if the timing belt got taken out on the highway, you have
> lost all of the intake valves at the very least, and likely more
> damage.  Personally, I would not bother to have it put together without
> having the head removed and rebuilt.   You will just be delaying the
> inevitable and spending more time and money.
>
> My bet is that you are looking at most valves, and possibly some guides,
> as well as all the normal timing belt and tensioner.  Then you will
> probably find that the serpentine belt tensioner and front engine covers
> will need to be replaced as well.  This will not be cheap or easy, I can
> just about gaurantee that....
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Steve
>
> >> Talked to my mechanic and he said the serpentine belt broke.  The 
> >> broken
> >> belt knocked the timing belt off.  His recommendation is to replace 
> >> both
> >> belts ($500), put everything back together, and see if it runs ok...
> >> If any additional damage was done that would require the head to be
> >> removed, add another $1500.. ouch..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: s-car-list-bounces+james.murray=ericsson.com at audifans.com
> >>> > To: S-Car List
> >>> > Sent: 5/16/2004 9:13 AM
> >>> > Subject: [s-cars] Died on I4, now no-start
> >>> >
> >>> > Driving along at about 70mph, everything seemed fine.  Suddenly and
> with
> >>> >
> >>> > no warning, RPMS dropped like a rock and car dies.  I coasted to a
> stop
> >>> > on the shoulder.  Car refused to start.  I turned the key and heard
> >>> > nothing.  No cranking... nada.
> >>> > I'm trying to figure out what could cause the car to die while 
> >>> > happily
> >>> > curising at 70 and also keep it from turning over...
> >>> > I had it towed 130 miles to my mechanic (who I'm getting to know
> better
> >>> > and better).  Perhaps it's something simple I can fix on my own 
> >>> > before
> >>> > he gets to it??
> >>> >
> >>> > t
> >>
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