[s-cars] Current drain - I need more help!

The Gagnons bullitt at gwi.net
Sun Nov 7 22:46:58 EST 2004


Fred,

I tried that one too.

Thanks

Jack



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Munro [mailto:munrof at sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:08 PM
> To: The Gagnons; S-Car-List
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Current drain - I need more help!
>
>
> Hi Jack;
>
> I had the same problem on my UrS4 - I've attached a post
> describing the fix
> for my car. From your write-up it sounds like you might have pulled the A1
> circuit breaker but it's worth a re-check.
>
> HTH
>
> Fred Munro
>
> <<Attachment>>
>
> Thanks to Tom, Igor, Teddy, Calvin, and Dave for responding to my current
> drain question and confirming that the drain was indeed too high.
>
> A bit of work with a digital ammeter isolated the problem to the automatic
> window closure circuit. Pulling the A1 breaker in the under-hood relay box
> dropped the drain to below 10 mA.
>
> This circuit is designed to close windows or the sunroof if they are open
> when the car is locked. This feature has never worked on my car.
> The circuit
> has it's own relay under the driver's side A-pillar kick panel. The power
> supply side is "fused" with a 30 amp breaker in the A1 position in the
> underhood relay box. The relay is triggered by a white/yellow
> wire from the
> power window control module.
>
> This is apparently a relatively common source of a battery drain problem -
> it is written up on Scott Mockry's website and the recommended
> fix is to cut
> the yellow/white wire.
>
> Removing the A1 breaker fixed my problem - this disables the auto close
> circuit and leaves the power windows operational. From this I assume my
> relay is either fused closed or is indeed being activated by the control
> module (via the yellow/white wire) and the power drain is in the circuit
> itself somewhere.
>
> The car now has a 100 mA drain for 30 seconds after the alarm is set, then
> it drops off to 10 mA with a spike to 20 mA every 5 seconds.
>
> A substantial improvement from 280 mA.
>
> When I get some time (ha!) I'll pull the relay to check it out.
>
> Fred Munro
> '94 S4
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of The Gagnons
> Sent: November 7, 2004 4:13 PM
> To: S-Car-List
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Current drain - I need more help!
>
>
>
> I have tried pulling all the fuses and all the relays Under the
> hood and in
> the drivers footwell and still have a 270 milliamp draw.  I even unplugged
> the alarm harness and there is still a draw.  How can I find the culprit.
> Are there any more relays/fuses?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of The Gagnons
> > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 6:30 PM
> > To: S-Car-List
> > Subject: [s-cars] Current drain
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am having a problem with my battery draining while the car is
> > sitting.  I
> > have used an amp meter to measure the current.  With no dome lights or
> > accessories to simulate the car at rest, I measured 0.27 amps or 270
> > milliamps.
> >
> > This seems like too much.  What is an acceptable value?
> >
> >
> >
> > I thinkaround 70-80 is normal.  This appears to be 200
> milliamps too much
> > draw.  What is there that could draw this much?
> >
> >
> >
> > I pulled the trunk light and saw no drop in the current draw.
> >
> > I pulled each fuse from the inside of the drivers side fuse box one at a
> > time and saw no drop in the current draw.
> >
> > I pulled each relay on the relay panel behind the drivers side
> kick plate
> > and saw no drop in current draw.
> >
> > I pulled each relay from the relay panel under the hood on the
> > drivers side
> > with no drop in the current draw.
> >
> > There are a bunch of fused wires coming off the battery
> terminal that lead
> > to an aftermarket Clifford alarm system.  I pulled each fuse
> and saw a 50
> > milliamp drop on one of them.  The one that caused the drop
> also disabled
> > the car alarm.
> >
> > Where else should I look?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there more relays to check? There must be more!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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