[s-cars] Dawson's Dreadnaught and FMIC Testing (and fire sale)

Lewis, Gary M gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com
Tue Nov 9 13:00:40 EST 2004


Spearco does INDEED (well did for sure before selling to Turbonetics)
have casted end tanks.  I'm not sure the vanes are going to do much,
but MLP and Haps TIG project to smooth the ramps to the cores has merit
IMHO (and I'm assuming that is what you are talking about Hap??).  

Also, the bottom line on FMIC IMHO is (ala Trevor Frank):
BIGGER IS BETTER.  If you are trying to do an FMIC sans cutting the
bumper, it may not be worth it.  Get water injection instead.  Mine,
MLP's, and Hap's FMIC numbers are really incredible, and the IC's are
all really different, except they are BIG.  The Stone IC looks great,
but is it as good as mine or Hap's?  90% efficiencies?  Low pressure
losses?  Volumes above stock??  Dawson's 400+hp on the stock IC is
IMPRESSIVE.  I'd obviously wait for the test before deciding if I were
you.

If MLP is correct about the efficiency of the vert vs. the horiz., I
agree it is the IC itself (Bell vs. Spearco or Garrett), ambient flow,
or,  even after the first 90% of the cooling took place in the first 6-8
inches, cooling is STILL more important than pressure loss.  Gets me
back to that square IC shape...

Having done this myself, if I had to do it again, RayT's setup is the
way to go.  Go organic on the IC (i.e., do-it-your-self), get the Euro
bumper, and for around $1,500 bucks you have a perfect solution.  HUGE
IC in any config you want (horiz, vert), at substantial sizes (Hap or
RayT or Trevor Frank size, bigger than mine, which is pretty big, rated
at 1000hp), pretty bumper, etc.

http://gallery.s-cars.org/album01

And the car below is for STILL for sale, fire sale, $14,000.  Includes
BOTH stock Avus and 18" RS4 rims (with new Falken's), original brakes,
Hap Rear Sway Bar (HRSB, needs install), Davtron IC tamp gauge (needs
install), K27 turbo, and I'm sure some stuff I haven't thought of...

Gary Lewis

1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2
Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Turbine, Factory RS2 Comp Cold side (Audi
Works '999' P/N) with 50mm intake and custom Innovative Turbo compressor
wheel, sim to a 50 trim), Spearco 18x6x3.5 vertical FMIC, Stromung
RSS-4+, TurboXS Type 25 Bypass Valve, Bilsteins, Eibachs, Big Reds, Spec
II Clutch.




Message: 10
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:18:51 -0700
From: "Dave Forgie" <forgied at ae.ca>
Subject: [s-cars] Dawson's Dreadnaught and FMIC Testing
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
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Mike:  APR (and/or Spearco) make cast aluminum top and bottom tanks for
vertical flow cores.  The APR ones have little turning vanes inside to
"evenly" (supposedly) distribute and collect the air flow.  I tried to
get 2Bennett to respond with details or BTDT's on APR vertical flow FMIC
installs in UrScars but they never got back to me.

Dave F.

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