[s-cars] Phatnoise upgrade

Tom Green trgreen at comcast.net
Tue Aug 9 00:10:39 EDT 2005


Dave,

I have no expertise or experience in this, but I am also interested in
order to install an integrated ipod controller that will only work with
the concert or newer.
There has been a lot of traffic on audiworld about the retrofit, and I
understood all that was required was rewiring the lights from the
concert plug to the unit and a new cable to the trunk for phatnoise
or changer.
See Ti Kan's pages for good info on Audi radios:

<http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/radios/>

Tom '95 S6


> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:27:11 -0400
> From: Dave Ellis <UrS4 at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Phatnoise upgrade write up - Looking for info
>     for pre 95.5
> To: S-CAR-List at audifans.com
> Cc: Tom Mullane <tmullane at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <42F7A3FF.7030206 at sympatico.ca>
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> Thanks Tom!  Interesting write-up.
>
> So, does anyone know what further work would need to be done to  
> install
> a Concert1/Phatnoise into a pre-'95.5 S6 or S4?  Specifically I'm
> looking for info for a '93 S4 (if that's any help).
>
> So far, I know the Concert1 has a wider face plate than the Gamma  
> unit,
> so I suspect there would be a need to change some of the center  
> console
> parts for later parts from a post '95.5 S6.  Looking at ETKA  
> however the
> only difference in part numbers I can see relating to mounting the  
> radio
> is for the power mirror control trim; 4A1 863 324 D for post 95.5  
> S6 and
> 4A1 863 324 F for a S4.  The cigarette lighter trim piece and the  
> actual
> center console insert that the radio slots into both appear to be the
> same.  Does anyone have any additional information on physically  
> fitting
> a Concert1 unit into a S4?
>
> Fitment issues aside, is anyone aware of any electronic/signaling  
> issues
> that would have to be resolved?  Does anyone know what wiring harness
> modifications would be needed to replace a Gamma CC with a Concert1?
>
> Any information would be useful and appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> -Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Mullane wrote:
>
>
>> Update:
>> Here's a link.
>>
>> www.mswanson.com/audi/Phat_upgrade.pdf
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 8/8/05, Tom Mullane <tmullane at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I few weeks ago, I promised a write up on upgrading 95.5 and later
>>> models equipped with the Delta head unit to Concert I and Phatnoise.
>>> The write up is done, and Steve Young claims it was useful in his
>>> avant upgrade, so I hereby release it to the masses.  I'm trying to
>>> figure out how to upload it to the pdf archive on S-cars.org, and  
>>> if I
>>> succeed I will provide a link.  In the meantime, interested parties
>>> can email me and I will sent out copies.
>>>
>>> Steve will be attempting to upgrade the S4 at some point, so  
>>> there may
>>> be more to follow, but at this point I have no help to offer there.
>>>
>>> Tom

More from Tom:

>
> Dave,
>
> The dash fitment issues are the tip of the iceberg for the earlier
> cars, unfortunately.  The wiring is vastly different and much scarier.
>  Steve Young is going to attempt tho sort this out for his 93, so
> perhaps we will see a solution in the coming months.
>
> Tom




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