[s-cars] RE: AAN Drysump

[TODD KRAMER]

Thanks, all, for the "yes, audi racing made one" answer.  Gotta love the 
list.

TK



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Todd E. Kramer
toddekramer at msn.com




>From: Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>
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>Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: AAN Drysump
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>well, maybe they're looking for a few more hp by keeping the oil away
>from a spinning crank, but the money is better spent elsewhere (on a
>dollar per horsepower basis).  do these engines have windage trays and
>crank scrapers?
>
>-teddy
>
>--- QSHIPQ at aol.com wrote:
>
> > You guys crazy!  IF you think you have a oil problem that requires a dry
> > sump, you should be spinning crank and rod parts, #3 is usually first 
>cuz it
> > has the highest load.  Audisport homoged the dry sump in the Jan 1 '83 
>group
> > B cars, but it is worthy of note that it wasn't used prior to that in 
>Group 4
> > (tqc intro).  And yes, the Trans Am car used it, so did the IMSA GTO 90.
> >
> > The reason for dry sump is to keep the oil pressure consistent in all 
>dymamic
> > conditions (read:  high 'g' loading found in severe racing).  I don't at 
>all
> > believe ANY S car needs one.  At the *very* most in a street driven
> > application, an Accusump resevoir system might have merit, but I have 
>read of
> > no crank failures (due to oil pressure problems) on these lists...  
>Ever.
> > Crank failures are the reason to explore Accusump resevoirs and dry sump
> > systems.  For low g loading (read: occasional track)the accusump will
> > suffice.  I'd argue further, that accusump pressure resevoirs are used 
>on
> > many wet sump cars in racing.
> >
> > This sure went for a big ride from a PCV thread.  Audi's turbo oiling 
>systems
> > are really good.  Ring failures (oil blowby) aren't reasons to use
> > Resevoir/dry sump.  Rod bearing failures and crank journal failures 
>maybe.
> > Make sure that you understand the reasons, tests and justifications for 
>these
> > devices before throwing money at them just because.
> >
> > Hope this eases the frenzy.
> >
> > Scott Justusson
> > QSHIPQ Performance Tuning
> > Chicago
> > In a message dated 2/28/2005 10:43:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, "mlp"
> > <mlped at qwest.net> writes:
> >
> > >Todd, in case you're not on, or have access to the Audi20V_Kruemmer 
>group,
> > >this from Tommy:
> > >  (Todd's http://tinyurl.com/59v42 raison for asking)
> > >
> > >Do you know if the "....The intermediate shaft is a modified VW 
>original
> > >shaft that has the fuel pump lobe machined off & a worm gear installed 
>to
> > >turn the mating worm gear on the oil pump shaft..." can be adapted to 
>the
> > >AAN?  I've no idea how the Finn's (? or are they Swedish) Auto-Verdi 
>group
> > >adapts their system.  However, I not confidently expect to see one of 
>these
> > >in Brian Billotti's next vehicle.  I suspect Hap would also be 
>interested,
> > >IF someone can tell him the pump & pan can be polished to a high degree 
>of
> > >luster.
> > >
> > >mike
> >
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