[s-cars] Big brake upgrade help

Serge Filanovsky s6serge at verizon.net
Sun Jan 9 18:36:25 EST 2005


Kevin,

I got the ECS Stage III, but other than the rotors, same kit as yourself. I
too installed mine at friends garage, there was plenty of debate on the
topic of flipping the crossover tubes with the bleeders. We ended up doing
the switch and it was the right decision. I would suspect that if the black
paint on the crossover fittings is undisturbed, you need to do the swap.
This are some pics of the final product with some pointers.

http://www.rfdp.com/brakes/

HTH

Serge Filanovsky

95.5 S6 Avant



> Hi all,
> 
> I recently took delivery of the ECS stage 2 big brake it.  I've got a
> bunch of questions and I'm hoping for some BTDTs.
> 
> 1) I have the "big blacks", not the "big reds".  As I understand it these
>  calipers are from the 928 GTS, and are identical to the 993tt calipers,
>  except that they are configured for trailing (behind the axle) mounting.
>  The ECS invoice has the cryptic phrase "Calipers do need swapped."  I
>  assume they are talking about the leading/trailing issue.  However,
>  the calipers appear to already be in the correct orientation for
>  leading-edge mounting.  Please see this picture for (at least what
>  I believe to be) the driver's side caliper:
>  http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/66084/bigblack.jpg
>  Please correct me if I am wrong!
>  BTW, the boxes the calipers came in have the Porsche part number
>  928 351 423 03.
>  
> 2) I want to replace the bolts which attach the ECS bracket to the spindle.
>  Is N 901 740 01 the correct Audi part number?
> 
> 3) Loc-tite on all the bolts?  What torque is recommended for the
>  caliper to bracket bolts?  I assume the bracket to spindle bolts
>  take the same torque as (hopefully) published in the Bentley.
> 
> 3) The ECS invoice also says "check caliper hold down bolts to confirm
>  that length is not too long" -- are they talking about their supplied
>  bolts (caliper to bracket), or the ones that mount their bracket to
>  the spindle?  I guess I should call them on this one...
> 
> 4) Is the splash shield retained with the big brake setup?  If so, do I
>  need to modify it?
>  
> 5) I bought a power bleeder and two liters of ATE super blue.  Is two
>  liters enough?  What is the preferred bleeding order -- I am going
>  to do a complete flush.
> 
> 6) Besides the adhesive-backed clips that go into the pistons, is there
>  anything else I should do on the squeal-reducing front?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help, and sorry for putting so many questions
> in one message.  I have done a few brake jobs, but this is the first time
> with non-original parts, so I'm a bit of a newb.  Plus I will be borrowing
> a garage that's an hour away to do this work, so I really want to get it
> right the first time!
> 
> -Kevin
> '94 S4, soon to have 'squish-be-gone' upgrade
> 
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