FW: [s-cars] APIKOL short shifter opinions

[Emre Washburn]

Man, the "CO Mafioso" sticks together until the end! Agrees toward
one, and they all come out of the wood work to defend. Maybe "CO
Militia" would be a better name?

Getting past the dramatics posted by some, I'm sure BOTH the Apikol
and BillzCat1 are good and relatively equal solutions to our long,
sloppy throws. Both most likely (at least the BillzCat1 does) do their
job by raising the pivot point of the shift rod, hence making shorter
throws. One will be less costly, one more, admittedly only by a
trivial amount. But since some on the broads are into overkill, both
can be used together.

A short shift kit is not one of those mods that need a "significant
number of miles of actual 'in-car' testing", it either does it's job
or it doesn't, needless to say since the BillzCat1 also has many miles
of "in-car testing".


-- 
Emre - doing my best to keep more of S-cars owners money in their
pockets since 2004, even at the risk of falling of a "turnip wagon"
(must be a back woods Coloradan joke)
92 //S4
90 Cq
40 valves to many!


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:23:45 -0700, mlp-505 <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> Wow - is this coming from "I can get it wholesale" Yummyjaeger??!?  Yummy,
> please tell me you haven't fallen off a turnip wagon, ... or something.
> 
> To the list, FWIW, I've had an APIKOL short shift kit installed on two UrS
> cars, and find the shift action, if not quite as crisp as a Mazda Rx8's gear
> box, a very worthwhile adaptation.  I've also had (and aid to have it
> repaired) a ghetto short-shift as implemented by a PO who sawed @ 2" off the
> top of the shifter on one of the cars.  IMO, this is NOT the way to go.  The
> throw basically remains the same, its just that your shift lever is 2 inches
> shorter, producing a longer reach for the knob, but not really much
> reduction in the distance your arms/hand has to travel to change gears.
> There is also the problem of either re-threading the top of the lever that
> has to be cut off to make the length reduction, or finding some other means
> of re-attaching the shift knob to the lever.  In my case, the PO opted for
> an after market red anodized aluminum ball - both hideous &, in winter
> deadly cold.
> 
> Finally, if it helps anyone decide, the APIKOL group's solution now has a
> significant number of miles of actual "in-car" testing and use on its design
> which, I believe, has produced at least one revision and a reliability
> upgrade.  I'd consider it a pretty well proven product.
> 
> Michael "worried about anything that might lead to a shorter shaft, even if
> it's only Hap's" Pederson
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list On Behalf Of Emre Washburn
> 
> Hap and all,
> 
> The BillzCat1 does NOT .......
> 
> <snip>......   so Hap, I'm not sure why you thought the Billzcat1 solution
> would be just a ghetto shortened shaft like the one you have. It's good to
> double check your information before insulting others work. My $0.02.
> 
> --
> Emre
> 92 //S4
> 90 Cq
> 40 valves to many!
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:49:00 EST, CaptMagu at aol.com <CaptMagu at aol.com> wrote:
> > Jamu
> >
> > I think he's got it. That's what I understand. The Billzcat shortens the
> > shaft. I shortened mine the Old Fashion Way, I cut the shaft myself, at a
> > whopping cost of $00.00. I do use an aftermarket Euro illuminated 6 -speed
> > knob that utilzes set screws for attachment. Mike Pederson had his cut and
> > threaded, he's a lot cheaper than I am and wanted to use the stock knob,
> for
> > a total cost of $00.00. I may be missing something here but I don't see
> the
> > benefit of the Billzcat option.
> >
> > The Apikol SSer uses, as Cody has so eloquently pointed out, a brand new
> > Audi linkage that is modified to shorten the throw. There is someone else
> > out there that just announced their entrance to the market with a new SSer
> > but I believe they are using the old linkage on exchange to do their kit.
> > For my money I would go with the Apikol SSer and do your own shaft
> > shortening.
> >
> > Hap, talkin dakine SSer mods from Evahboost, Maguire
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