[s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car

chris chambers fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 23 20:22:55 EST 2005 

Sean

umm I guess Snapon dealer.
Did the work at a friends foriegn auto repair shop and used his tools.

Flare tools are pretty cheap though, stop by your local FLAPS and see
what they have. I do have a flaring tool, I can loan if you need it.
Let me know and I can take a pic of it for your reference.

HTH
Chris


--- Sean Douglas <quattro20v at telus.net> wrote:

> Chris:
> 
> Thanks for the response.
> 
> Where did you get the flare tool from? It looks like there are
> multiple
> type of flares out there and I don't know which one Audi uses.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:58 PM
> > To: Sean Douglas; Scar
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car
> > 
> > 
> > Sean,
> > 
> > I had this same problem with my Audi 5000 some years ago.
> > 
> > My fix was:
> > 1 Purchased standard Steel lines from the local NAPA dealer.
> > 2 Removed the rusted lines from car, cutting the line and 
> > saving the metric fittings. 3 Bent the new line to replace 
> > the old ones, in my case I had to use two lines coupled 
> > together to replace the old one. 4 Cut the replacement line 
> > to length, installed the metric fittings on the new line and 
> > flared it with a flare tool. 5 Installed the line
> > 
> > 
> > HTH
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Sean Douglas <quattro20v at telus.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Mark:
> > > 
> > > How did you do this? Did you find the proper fittings and flare
> the 
> > > copper pipe to match? I'd be interested in your details.
> > > 
> > > Looking through ETKA, it doesn't appear that the threaded 
> > male fitting
> > > that connects the hard pipe to a flex line is available - unless
> I
> > > pull
> > > one off a donor car. But it does look like the M-M coupler is
> > > available.
> > > Also, are bulk metal fuel lines available, if so, then I'd have
> to
> > > figure out what type of flare the OEM pipes use and where 
> > to buy this
> > > tool.
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to figure out a DIY way of fixing this, just 
> > priced out the
> > > new set of hardlines, $300, ouch!
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Sean
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Strangways [mailto:Strangconst at rogers.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:05 PM
> > > > To: Sean Douglas; 'Fred Munro'; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I ended up using..... Copper....
> > > > 
> > > > Boy I am gonna hear about this.
> > > > 
> > > > Mark
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sean Douglas" <quattro20v at telus.net>
> > > > To: "'Fred Munro'" <munrof at sympatico.ca>; 
> > <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 6:29 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Thanks Fred, Mark and all:
> > > > > 
> > > > > So assuming that the metal line is rusted, is it possible
> > > > to cut out
> > > > > the bad section and graft in a new one or do I have to buy
> > > > a whole new
> > > > > length of line?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sean
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Fred Munro [mailto:munrof at sympatico.ca]
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 2:38 PM
> > > > >> To: Sean Douglas; s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > > >> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Sean;
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> The fuel lines corrode and leak under the rubber line 
> > mounts. Dry 
> > > > >> the area off and take a look with the car running - 
> > you may have 
> > > > >> a line that only leaks under pressure. As a 
> > preventative measure 
> > > > >> every UrS owner in the rust belt should pop the mounts off
> the 
> > > > >> fuel lines, remove the rubber blocks, and clean, 
> > paint, and spray 
> > > > >> the lines with your favourite anti-rust treatment before 
> > > > >> re-installing the mounts. If you don't your fuel lines 
> > will fail, 
> > > > >> in spite of Audi's lovely epoxy-coated, copper-clad steel
> fuel 
> > > > >> lines.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Fred Munro
> > > > >> '94 S4
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> > > > >> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On > Behalf Of Sean 
> > > > >> Douglas
> > > > >> Sent: January 23, 2005 3:57 PM
> > > > >> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > > > >> Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Odour from Under Car
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> For the last 2 weeks, I've noticed a strong fuel odour in
> the 
> > > > >> garage after I park the car. I traced the fuel lines in the 
> > > > >> engine bay and couldn't find any visible signs of 
> > gasoline - no 
> > > > >> odour either.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Today when I was washing my car (balmy 12 celcius), I 
> > noticed the 
> > > > >> smell at the right rear, just ahead of the rear wheel. 
> > I jacked 
> > > > >> up the rear and took a look at the fuel lines. There 
> > are 3 lines, 
> > > > >> supply, return and evap (I think). There is a black 
> > plastic cover 
> > > > >> and above this, are several connections where the hard lines
> 
> > > > >> change to flex lines. Some are clamped, others have a
> threaded 
> > > > >> fitting. No sign of gasoline here either, but the odour was 
> > > > >> unmistakably gasoline - hard to tell because this area was
> wet 
> > > > >> with water.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Since there is an odour, but no sign of fuel leads me 
> > to believe 
> > > > >> it has something to do with the evap system?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I think I should take a closer look when its dry - any tips
> or 
> > > > >> suggestions?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Sean Douglas
> > > > >> 1997 Audi S6//RS2-spec
> > > > >> 1990 Audi 90 quattro 20v
> > > > >> 
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