[s-cars] Can dealer chage mileage on a used instrument cluster?

[George]

1. dealer can set the speedo - it was done on my Avant by Audi dealer when
cluster was replaced due to (what they thought) defective fuel gauge

2. aftermarket "tools" - as B said, this is very common - anyone with some
skill can built  a pulse generator

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces+george=connectel-us.com at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces+george=connectel-us.com at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Bruce Mendel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 17:55
To: northrup
Cc: S-Car-List at Audifans.Com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Can dealer chage mileage on a used instrument cluster?

forwards, backwards, whatever you want. you type in on a numeric keypad what
you want the mileage to say, and it programs the EPROM in the cluster to
read out that mileage.

that's why i check my used cars that i buy VERY carefully...looking at
carfax, dealer service history, DMV, pedal covers, etc. it's a hundred times
easier to rollback a digital cluster than a mechanical one.

i have witnessed someone loosen the steering column on a ferrari 360 modena,
remove the cluster, desolder the PROM, attach it to a chip reader, roll it
back, and reassemble. VERY scary. They only it back 5 miles, just to prove
the concept, but it can be done easily enough.

B


----- Original Message -----
From: "northrup" <northrup at crazybug.com>
To: "Bruce Mendel" <brucem105 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Dave Ellis" <UrS4 at sympatico.ca>; "Tony Curran"
<tony.curran at sympatico.ca>; "S-Car-List at Audifans.Com"
<s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Can dealer chage mileage on a used instrument cluster?


> have you seen one that allows a rewind?  VAG com etc, will allow you to
> forward the odometer.  I belive it can also only do this once, but that
> may not be true.   I never tried it.
>
> -- 
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Bruce Mendel wrote:
>
> > It may be true from the dealer, but there are tools that can set a
digital
> > odometer to any mileage you desire. I've seen one in use...it's
> > jaw-dropping, takes less time than setting the clock.
> >
> > Bruce
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dave Ellis" <UrS4 at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Tony Curran" <tony.curran at sympatico.ca>
> > Cc: "S-Car-List at Audifans.Com" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Can dealer chage mileage on a used instrument
cluster?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hey Tony!
> > >
> > > If I recall correctly the only time an adjustment can be made to the
> > > odometer is with a brand new cluster with electronic odometer with
less
> > > than 100kms on it, in which case the odometer may be rolled forward
once
> > > and only once using a VAG-COM or like tool.
> > >
> > > I don't know about the clusters that use a mechanical odometer, but I
> > > suspect they may not be easily adjustable.
> > >
> > > Which do you have in your S6 - mechanical or electronic odometer?
> > > -Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony Curran wrote:
> > >
> > > >My dealer is telling me they can not change the mileage on a used
> > instrument
> > > >cluster. Once mileage is in it is burned.
> > > >
> > > >Is this true?
> > > >
> > > >TIA.
> > > >
> > > >Tony
> > > >96 S6
> > > >
> > >
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