[s-cars] Re: Mr. Hull bids adieu to the s//S2

Sean Douglas quattro20v at telus.net
Fri Jun 17 19:32:20 EDT 2005 

BTW, its 15 years from the date of manufacture, so if a 1995 was built
in 1994, then it would be 2009.

Sean Douglas
1997 Audi S6//RS2-spec
1990 Audi 90 quattro 20v


> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of James 
> Murray (QA/EMC)
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:54 PM
> To: Chris Hall; Taka Mizutani; 'dupree914 at sbcglobal.net'
> Cc: S-CAR at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Mr. Hull bids adieu to the s//S2
> 
> 
> Another 5 years to go for me... "Residents of Canada cannot 
> normally import a car from overseas countries unless it is at 
> least 15 years old."
> 
> So in 2010 I could be driving to to S-Fest in 1995 RS2... 
> 
> /Jamu.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces+james.murray=ericsson.com at audifans.com
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces+james.murray=ericsson.com at audifans.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: Chris Hall; Taka Mizutani
> Cc: S-CAR at audifans.com; Quattro List; s-200 list
> Subject: [s-cars] Re: Mr. Hull bids adieu to the s//S2
> 
> 
> This is all based on current regulations for
> importation. These rules changed several years ago and
> made it much simpler to import a vehicle to the US.
> The feds had an attitude that some cars just did not
> belong in the US regardless of what you were willing
> to do to them.
> 
> 
> --- Chris Hall <badcomrade at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Apparently what you need is the following:
> > 
> > An HS-7 Declaration form (available at ports of
> > entry or online).
> > 
> > Cars less than 25 years old must comply with all
> > applicable Federal
> > motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS) to be
> > imported on a permanent
> > basis.
> > (Vehicles manufactured to comply with the FMVSS will
> > have a
> > certification label affixed by the original
> > manufacturer in the area
> > of the driver-side door. )
> > 
> > A vehicle without a certification label cannot be
> > imported as a
> > "conforming" vehicle.
> > In this case, the importer must contract with a
> > Registered Importer (RI) to
> > 
> > ********  modify the vehicle and post a DOT
> > Conformance Bond in an
> > amount equivalent to one and a half times the
> > vehicle's dutiable
> > value. ********  (ouch!)
> > 
> > This bond is in addition to the normal Customs entry
> > bond (which is
> > what... 3%?).  Copies of the DOT Conformance Bond
> > and the contract
> > with an RI must be attached to the HS-7.
> > 
> > "If the petitioned vehicle is not similar to one
> > sold in the U.S.,
> > this process can become very complex and costly."
> > Well, that S2 is
> > "similar"... Doesn't say IDENTICAL... so who cares
> > about the core
> > support... lol.
> > 
> > 
> > So that's pretty much it (other than the EPA part,
> > and really... how
> > hard is it for a car to pass emissions... my Coupe
> > GT did it with no
> > cat  lol.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 6/17/05, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Chris-
> > > Have you tried to get Audi of America to send you
> > an affidavit stating
> > > that the S2 is significantly similar to a US-spec
> > car (forget the
> > > official name of the document)? Good luck.
> > > 
> > > The rad support and some other parts are
> > significantly different from the CQ.
> > > 
> > > Cars older than 25 yrs. are now virtually
> > unrestricted.
> > > 
> > > Have you even ever talked to an RI about doing
> > this? It's not as
> > > simple as you make it out to be.
> > > 
> > > Taka
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 6/17/05, Chris Hall <badcomrade at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Well like I said, that car is pretty much the
> > exact same body that was
> > > > used on the U.S. Coupe Quattro, so as far as
> > that part is concerned
> > > > (which is a big part), that shouldn't have
> > stopped it from coming in
> > > > since they were approved for U.S. roads.
> > > >
> > > > The only other 3 things I can think of that can
> > stop a car from being
> > > > imported are: #1 the manufacturer decided they
> > don't want to
> > > > #2 something was on the car that didn't allow it
> > to meet U.S.
> > > > emissions specs (and could be modded / detuned
> > to allow it to pass
> > > > inspection...)
> > > > #3 there were some DOT safety issues... type of
> > headlights, and all
> > > > the other minor stupid crap that has to be
> > changed for the U.S. market
> > > > which again, could probably also be taken care
> > of for way way less
> > > > than $30,000.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen TONS of cars here in the Chicago area
> > that were never
> > > > imported in to the US for one reason for
> > another, so it's not like
> > > > it's a wild idea...  I was behind a right hand
> > drive E type today on
> > > > Lake Shore Drive in fact lol.
> > > >
> > > > Plus like I said, every once in a while one of
> > the Quattro Sports in
> > > > this country go up for sale (usually around
> > $90,000-$100,000) so that
> > > > would have been easier (and waaay more of an
> > investment) than paying
> > > > someone to do all those mods he had done to make
> > a "better than
> > > > average" S2.  Not to mention it'd smoke the S2
> > lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/17/05, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > If the car is not importable, then it really
> > doesn't matter what the
> > > > > car costs outside of the US (for people in the
> > US, that is).
> > > > >
> > > > > Taka
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/17/05, Chris Hall <badcomrade at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > So he stopped counting at $60,000 to make a
> > "fake" S2.  If the -real-
> > > > > > S2's are going for $10,000 - $15,000 U.S.
> > What would it cost to
> > > > > > import it here and have it made DOT legal?
> > Certainly not $60,000....
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Hall
> > > > badcomrade at gmail.com
> > > > "making girls cry since 1974"
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Hall
> > badcomrade at gmail.com
> > "making girls cry since 1974"
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