[s-cars] Correct Bilstein / Eibach Suspension Availability

LL - NY larrycleung at gmail.com
Fri May 20 10:45:00 EDT 2005


Doug, 

You have decisions to make w/rt to the springs. I have Eibachs now,
and now that I'm upstate on relatively untravelled roads (i.e. smooth)
I kind of wish that I went with S6+ H&R's. There is much more front
end motion than I find desirable when being "sprited" although I've
never bottomed. But, since strut Audi's don't exactly have the best
roll camber gain, front end motion tends to lead to more understeer
than desirable. True at the limit, a stiffer front end will push, but
I have found (in my old SCCA days with my A2 GTi) roll camber gain is
more of a problem than front to rear roll stiffness balance, at least
until you have all of the tires working properly. + a better
controlled front end just "feels" better. Note, I'm entirely happy
with the rears. I'm likely to consider having my Bilsteins revalved
for probably around 20% more jounce (no change in rebound) to help
out.

HOWEVER, the ride quality is VERY close to stock, which was refreshing
compared to my H&R's in my 200Q which are just too stiff. No jiggles,
generally not harsh at all. It (S6 Eibach/Bilstein)still does hammer
me when hitting ridged pavement (which is just about every side road
around here, they chip+tar on dirt, but smooth the dirt with a lugged
tired tractor) but is otherwise perfect with respect to ride quality.

As for camber plates, personally, I'd try Igor's mod first. It may not
have enough adjustment (it didn't for me and my car was relatively low
milage at 80K miles when bought and modded) but it's "cheap" and
within your abilities. Plus it'll add adjustment range if you end up
getting plates. Don't know much about the ECS plates, but the
2-bennets (got on the GB) have both caster and camber adjustment,
which can be extended using the Igor mod. So you can get some extra
caster (improving on center feel and centering) while getting the
camber correct. They're beautifully made, machined aluminum pieces.
SOOOO pretty, I'm tempted to leave them uncovered JUST to look at
them. BUT, now that the GB is long gone, they're pricey.

Just my $0.02,

LL - NY

On 5/19/05, Doug Landaeta <keepitclean at spamarrest.com> wrote:
> Oh great list wisdom,
> 
> Now that I think I have finally resolved my email and list traffic problems,
> I'm ready to do some lowering.
> I know it's been asked a hundred time before - Where can I get exactly the
> right Bilstein / Eibach lowering and camber plates for my '94 sedan? I'll
> drive out to Ohio (from NJ), if I can be sure that I wind up level, lowered,
> and completely aligned with no unwanted squirreling, rubbing, etc. In the
> Summer, I run stock Fuchs wheels, 245/45/16 Toyos, and 15mm spacers all
> around (although I am moving that down to 10mm). Thanks!
> 
> Doug L
> 
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