Samco hose was RE: [s-cars] Miss & whoosh

[Sean Douglas]

I'm with you Mark - I'm RS2 spec and still running stock hoses. The
turbo to x-over and x-over to IC are newish and the IC to TB is
original.

I believe most of the failures are the x-over to IC because the oil is
trapped in the bottom bellows and softens the rubber from the inside.

Sean D.

1997 S6

> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces+quattro20v=telus.net at audifans.com 
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces+quattro20v=telus.net at audifans.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mark Strangways
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: chris chambers; mlbess at optonline.net; Scar
> Subject: Re: Samco hose was RE: [s-cars] Miss & whoosh
> 
> 
> I have a 93 CAD S4 (so it's 92 spec) it has +250,000 KM on 
> it. It has a Garrett GT30R running +30 PSI of boost when on 
> "race gas".
> 
> What I can't understand is why all my stock hoses are still 
> working. I did replace a x-over tube to IC (aka Michelin Man) 
> hose years back but it 
> was not due to failure, rather a failed diagnostic....
> 
> Based on list content my hoses should be spread all over 
> southern Ontario in 
> little bits.
> Makes one wonder how bad the quality of parts fell as years 
> progressed.
> 
> Mark S
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "chris chambers" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: <mlbess at optonline.net>; "Scar" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Samco hose was RE: [s-cars] Miss & whoosh
> 
> 
> > Mike,
> >
> > Glad to hear you located the problem.
> >
> > I think I still have my original hose if you need it until 
> you find a 
> > samco to replace it. Actually I would recommend you replace all the 
> > boost hoses with Samco hoses.
> >
> > Let me know
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Bess <mlbess at optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Found the problem (or at least one of the problems):  The turbo 
> >> outlet hose has a split in it.
> >>
> >> Now to replace:  Who has SAMCO's at the best price right now?
> >>
> >> Mike Bess
> >> '95 S6 in need of hose
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bill Clancy [mailto:clancybill at yahoo.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:39 PM
> >> To: chris chambers; mlbess at optonline.net; Scar
> >> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Miss & whoosh
> >>
> >> I have a similar problem... although not exactly the same. 
>   At lower
> >> RPM,
> >> say from 2500-3200 I can hear a slight wooshing sound and 
> sometimes I 
> >> feel
> >> like there is overboost.    I also get poor gas mileage.
> >>
> >> Question:  Would the engine run well most of the time if 
> the pressure 
> >> hose to the ECU was leaking or had come off?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "chris chambers" <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: <mlbess at optonline.net>; "Scar" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:28 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Miss & whoosh
> >>
> >>
> >> > Michael,
> >> >
> >> > Are your boost hoses stock still, if so it's time to upgrade.
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like a boost hose is either burst or popped 
> loose. I would 
> >> > check and see if the boost hose is still attached at the 
> outlet of 
> >> > your turbo. This can cause the woooshing noise to appear
> >> to
> >> > come from the passenger's side/glove box area.
> >> > I had this happen to me last summer.
> >> >
> >> > The car is running rich because air flowing past the MAF isn't
> >> making
> >> > it to the engine. The ECU is supplying the fuel but a popped or
> >> burst
> >> > boost hoses is stopping the air from getting to the engine.
> >> >
> >> > HTH
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- Michael Bess <mlbess at optonline.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> OK diagnosticians; put you thinking caps on.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Patient: '95S6 w/MTM 1+ and RS2 EM
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Symptoms: Started out as a minor stumble during 
> acceleration under 
> >> >> boost. Now I can hear a distinct "whooshing" sound 
> while driving 
> >> >> with
> >> boost
> >> >> obviously building under peddle to metal conditions, 
> from 2500 rpm 
> >> >> onward, which seems to come from the passenger side of the car, 
> >> >> near the glove box
> >> >> area.  When whooshing is evident, car stumbles quite 
> badly, black
> >> >> smoke seen
> >> >> in rear view mirror (Over-rich condition?).  If bring 
> revs up with
> >> >> partial
> >> >> throttle only (no boost?), no such problems all the way 
> up to 6000
> >> >> rpm.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> WTF???
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Possibilities:
> >> >>
> >> >> Blown off hose from ECU pressure sensor?
> >> >>
> >> >> Bad coil, POS, plug?
> >> >>
> >> >> Split in hose in intake tract?  (BTW how can I easily pressure
> >> test
> >> >> things;
> >> >> I remember seeing something a year or so ago?)
> >> >>
> >> >> ???
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> TIA,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike Bess
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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