[s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo

Wed Aug 2 07:56:35 EDT 2006

Can you guys pick up fellow //S-Fester Dr. Babbar en route?

Thank//S... 

-----Original Message-----
From: pkrasusky at ups.com [mailto:pkrasusky at ups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:48 AM
To: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com; StrangConst at rogers.com; Pasqualoni,
James E; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo

Get with the program, Mark!!!!!  And you consider yourself //SFest
worthy - shame on you 8-).  It's all ball bearings these days!!!

HIGHLY suggest you brush up on your Fletchisms prior to your trek down
in a few weeks...  just make sure your car doesn't hit any water buffalo
and need a bath towel....  _you're_coming_again___________right_????
Muwhahahahaa, pardon (just for you Vincent!)...

-Dr. Rosenrosen / Rosenpenis / Harry S. Truman

-----Original Message-----
From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:36 PM
To: Mark Strangways; Pasqualoni, James E; Joshua van Tol; Audi S Car
List
Cc: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)
Subject: Re: [s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo

That is out of a scene in the movie Fletch.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089155/

And some sound bites available here:
http://www.wavsite.com/sounds.asp?ID=31

Like these! 

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http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/18252/fletch15.wav
http://www.wavsite.com/sounds/18252/fletch16.wav

Enjoy!
Chris

--- Mark Strangways <StrangConst at rogers.com> wrote:

> Translation please !
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pasqualoni, James E" <james.pasqualoni at gs.com>
> To: "Joshua van Tol" <josh at spiny.com>; "Audi S Car List" 
> <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Cc: <pkrasusky at ups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo
> 
> 
> > "Awww, come on guys, it's so simple maybe you need a refresher
> course.
> > Heyya! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer 
> > valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and I'm gonna need
> 'bout
> > ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that
> Quaker
> > State."
> >
> > Sorry-couldn't resist.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Joshua van
> Tol
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:08 PM
> > To: Audi S Car List
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo
> >
> >
> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Postupack, Jeff wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Further to what  Dave wrote..
> >>
> >> I consulted with a machinist who worked in the aircraft business
> his
> >> entire life.
> >> Having seen ball bearings, bushings in various applications.he
> told me
> >
> >> .
> >> "A journal bearing  is a cylinder which surrounds the shaft and is 
> >> filled with some form of fluid lubricant Journal bearings can have 
> >> unlimited life, compared to a ball bearing."
> >> ->. For the more complete write up, seek
> >> http://www.reliabilitydirect.com/appnotes/jb.html
> >>
> >> He (the machinist)  also commented that journal bearings are much 
> >> tighter tolerances composed of particular material much better
> suited
> >> to the Hot side and cold side of the turbo charger.,  than a ball 
> >> bearing will ever be.
> >>
> >> All the fascination with ball bearings may be misguided for a long 
> >> life expectancy,  turbo application.
> >>
> >> Truth be told a journal bearing can be machined to very close
> fitment,
> >
> >> which means the shaft will not wobble.
> >> Isn't that what the Audi R&D actually specified also?
> >>
> >> Which means when I get around to selecting a turbo, for long life
> and
> >> higher boost, it shall have a journal bearing.
> >>
> >> Posto
> >>
> >
> > Journal bearings also have more friction, hence ball bearing turbos 
> > typically develop boost sooner, all things being equal.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:48:31 -0400
> >> From: djdawson2 at aol.com
> >> Subject: Re: [s-cars] installing a hybrid turbo
> >> To: calvinlc at earthlink.net, tedebearp at yahoo.com, 
> >> james.pasqualoni at gs.com
> >> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> >> Message-ID: <8C8833CDFAF9FD8-D28-A04D at FWM-D43.sysops.aol.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> 1) the journal bearing units are inexpensive
> >> 2) I haven't seen the journal bearing units fail (genuine Garrett,
> not
> >
> >> ITS, etc...)
> >> 3) I *have* seen many of the GT units fail
> >> 4) if your hp goals are 400whp or less, why bother with a ball
> bearing
> >
> >> unit?
> >> 5) a 50 trim allows a lot of boost at low rpm without surge issues
> >> 6) the GT units seem to be much more prone to surge
> >>
> >> IMHO, there's a lot of trouble-free hp available from a 50 trim
> T3/T4.
> >> Great drivability, low boost threshold, low cost.  In fact, the 50 
> >> trim compressor is about the most versatile thing I've ever 
> >> experimented with.
> >>
> >> OTOH, I run a 30R... but I wanted "more."  But, as a result of
> this
> >> choice, I'm on turbo # 2 in 50k miles, and under certain 
> >> circumstances, I do have surge.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
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