[s-cars] boge vs bilstein shock advice

[James Murray (QA/EMC)]

What about raising the Eibach springs via a spacer? There's a spacer you
can buy at ECS to raise the rear, but is there anything available for
the front?... Just a slight 0.60 inches higher would be perfect! The
alternative is going with coilovers.

/J.

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[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Dave Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:14 PM
To: Scot Anderson
Cc: S-Car-List
Subject: Re: [s-cars] boge vs bilstein shock advice


Scot Anderson wrote:
> Dave, Thanks for the input. I am definately still in research mode and

> every bit helps. As I collect my suspension upgrades, I get more and 
> more excited for when I actually put it all together. Thanks again for

> the advice.

You're welcome!

> So far, I have the happarsized rear sway bar and a 28mm front sway bar

> from an avant.

I'd love to have both those items.  The S4 could definitely benefit from
decreased body roll and more oversteer.

> The question remains do I go with lowered springs (which will require 
> camber plates)

I'm presently using the Eibach springs and was lucky enough not to have
to use camber plates or modify the stock ones.  My mechanic was able
(just barely) to get the front alignment into spec.  He had previously
also managed to get his own S4 into spec without camber plates as well,
although he mentioned he'd done one other where camber plates had been
needed.

> or the group buy on
> audiworld.com for European sport springs with only a 20 mm drop. I 
> almost feel the car sits a little high from an appearance standpoint. 
> I am fine with lowering it an inch or inch and a half.

I found the Eibach springs lowered the car perfectly at the back (but
I'm using the Avant springs so the back end of the sedan was originally
a little higher than the Eibach sedan springs would be), but after
adjusting the mount point the back the hight is now just o.k.  I've
found the front Eibach springs to have lowered things about 0.60 inches
too much though.  I have to be careful with oversized speed bumps and
some of the rough roads around here or end up grinding the downpipe and
exhaust crosspipe against the ground.

> I love the way the
> car drives now. I never thought in all my life I would say this, but 
> damn is it comfortable (do I sound like my father!!!) I guess I need 
> to drive a car with a firmer suspension to see what I like better. 
> Anyway, thanks again.

I didn't mind the original suspensions ride quality too much, but body
roll and brake dive were *way* too excessive for my liking.  I now find
the Eibachs great for handling, but on the rough roads around here they
are a little too firm for my taste.  I'm actually now considering
switching to the S6+ springs to raise the car / soften the ride
*slightly*.  The suspension on the 2000 NeuS4s / A4s with sport package
is about perfect, I find, and I'm hoping the S6+ springs will emulate
that kind of ride quality (though of course being a much heavier car the
UrS4 will never quite ride the same as those lighter B5 chassis cars).

> Scot Anderson

-Dave
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