[s-cars] No Start = Part 2

[Dave Forgie]

You are probably right. I am away from my Bentley right now so I was
just
 going on the CEL trying to tell you something. Apologies on the
"Duh!".

Dave F. 

>>> Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> 07/11/06 09:21AM >>>

I forget the exact wording, Dave, but the code is the one which says 
the engine is not running.  I have gotten this same code every time I 
have ever checked the codes except when doing it with the engine 
running.  The code I get is entirely expected under the conditions of 
the reading.

At 12:13 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote:
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>Just a minute. You have a CEL that says no signal from RPM sensor?
Duh!!
>
>
>While cranking, the ECU first looks for a signal from the Cam Sensor.
>  When it gets that, it fires the fuel pump relay.  In the meantime,
the
>
>crank position sensor and engine speed sensor signals are picked up
by
>  the ECU and the motor continues to run. IF the Cam sensor fails at
>that
>  moment, the engine will keep running but, if the engine is turned
off,
>it
>will not restart.  If the CPS is good but the crank sensor or engine
>speed
>sensor are bad, then you probably can't start the car.
>
>CEL's are not to be ignored.
>
>
>Check out the images at:
>
>http://forums.audiworld.com/s4s6/msgs/116988.phtml 
>
>Dave F.
>
>
>
> >>> Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> 07/11/06 09:02AM >>>
>
>
>My personal experience is this:  I purchased and installed the 034
>kit.  It ran perfectly for a while (a few days).  Shortly afterward I
>noticed a stumbling after startup for a short while until the engine
>started warming up a bit.  Replacing the fuel pump took care of that
>problem.  It appears to me that the stumbling problem was not
>associated with the 034 mod.  Also shortly after installing the 034
>mod a very brief ignition cut-out showed up.  It felt like what you
>get when you hit the rev limiter or the overboost cut-out.  Replacing
>the FP had no effect on this part of the problem.  Is it caused by
>the mod?  I don't know.  I'm still working on it.
>
>There have been no codes.  CEL never went on and VAG-COM reads
>nothing other than "no signal from the rpm sensor" or however that's
>worded.
>
>Meanwhile, my car is at the body shop getting the deer damage from a
>month ago taken care of.  My body man just called to tell me my car
>won't start.  Oh joy.  :-(
>
>At 11:44 AM 7/11/2006, j.n.tilden at comcast.net wrote:
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> >Hi Dave,
> >Thanks for the thoughts.
> >Me too, I think it is something peripheral to the ECU, and that is
> >leading me to the ECU Control Relay, I did replace the ignition
> >switch a couple of years ago, but there is no reason that it
> >couldn't have failed again!
> >CPS is new as a couple of years ago too, but it throws a code when
>bad!
> >I'm getting no codes!
> >
> >The harness is from 034 Motorsport, there could be a quality issue
> >here, but I think the likellyhood is small.
> >
> >Getting a big list of alternative failures.
> >
> >JT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Message: 10
> >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:16:24 -0600
> >From: "Dave Forgie" <forgied at ae.ca>
> >Subject: [s-cars]  Engine dying after switch to 1.8T Coils
> >To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> >Message-ID: <s4b36d39.039 at mail.ae.ca>
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> >
> >John: Whatever you are experiencing, I don't think its related to
the
> >1.8t
> >coil packs.  Its related to the fact that they aren't getting any
> >power.  My
> >first suspect, from what you describe is the ignition switch.  If
it
> >hasn't
> >been replaced, I would do that first.  Instructions are at:
> >
> >http://www.elektro.com/~audi/ignswitch/ 
> >
> >If that isn't the cure, then there is likely a problem with your
1.8t
> >coil pack
> >  conversion wiring.
> >
> >In my opinion.
> >
> >Dave F.
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