[s-cars] OOPS Please delete my previous email RE: IS my garret 3071 dying? - update on this adventure!

[chris chambers]

--- chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> My mechanic has confirmed my belief that the turbo is failing.
> It's providing boost but not as much as it should, and the compressor
> wheel has been hitting the inlet.
> 
> Javad has shipped me a replacement turbo, but he seems concerned 
> that Garret is going to say because this is his first warranty claim
> for a Garret turbo (so he states). For the moment I have promised to 
> not report the turbo failure to the general public (but I never
> promised to not share it with a trusted knowledgable person like
> yourself). So for now please don't mention the fact that the turbo
> did fail to anyone else.
> 
> My mechanic has inspected the installation, oil feed lines, etc. and
> assures me there is no evidence of any installation error. But I must
> keep in mind that this mechanic (who I trust) does own the shop that
> did the turbo swap 2 months ago. As such it's always possible he
> might
> not "see" instalattion error evidence.
> 
> To protect myself I want to inspect the bad turbo and photograph as
> many details as possible to document the damage. I'm wondering what
> specific areas I should inspect that could indicate whether there was
> some form of installation error. 
> 
> Because I paid a professional to do the swap I am in the middle here.
> I'll be damned if I'm paying for a replacement turbo if it was
> damaged
> due to an installation problem. As it is even if the turbo is
> replaced
> under warranty it'll cost me several hundred dollars (that I wasn't
> planning on) to get my car fixed and on the road again.
> 
> 
> Thanks again for your help
> Chris
> 
> 
> --- djdawson2 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Chris,
> > I would suggest that you remove the cold side housing of the turbo,
> > and inspect the edges were the compressor wheel may have made
> contact
> > with the inlet.  If the bearing is failing, you will see evidence
> of
> > metal to metal contact.  If you discover any signs of contact, you
> > should quit using it, as the bearing will eventually unload,
> dumping
> > ball bearings down into the oil return line and into your oil pan.
> >  
> > That is the very first thing I would look into.
> > Good luck,
> > Dave
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris chambers <fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com>
> > To: Scar <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 27 May 2006 14:31:19 -0700 (PDT)
> > Subject: [s-cars] IS my garret 3071 dying?
> > 
> > 
> > Gentz,
> > 
> > Boost is low, I'd say it's about stock levels.
> > Wife's 93 S4 with MTM chipset (stock bar sensor) has more
> > power and pulls better than mine now.
> > 
> > Yes I have checked my boost hoses and conducted a boost test
> > with my custom boost tester.
> > 
> > With no fitting on the turbo for boost to feed the WGFVI have
> > tapped off the boost line that feeds the ECU.
> > 
> > Background, after installing the 3071 I discovered the boost/vacuum
> > lines at the back of the enging that feed the ECU were restricting
> > boost. These lines were replaced and everything was good.
> > 
> > Thinking that potentially there is an obstruction in the IM that
> > feeds the lines on teh back of the engine I looked for boost
> > elsewhere.
> > I have Samco hoses so the turbo outlet hose was made in two pieces,
> I
> > removed the 3/4" Copper coupler and replaced it with a copper T
> > fitting
> > and attached a barb fitting to this T fitting. Then I fed the WGFV
> > and
> > ECU boost from this point, it made no difference.
> > 
> > After countless frustrating hours trying to figure out what stupid
> > thing
> > I was overlooking I pulled the MAF/Turbo hose off, the inside is
> > covered
> > with oil and if I grask the impeller shaft I can wiggle it.
> > 
> > So gentz, until I can get a professional to look at this, is there
> > anything I am overlooking or is this turbo failing?
> > 
> > 
> > Chris
> > not happy or in evah boost
> > 
> > Make April 15th just another day http://www.fairtax.org
> > 
> > 
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