[s-cars] Was Bad CPS - Now Bad Crank Pulley

[hoog23 at aol.com]

Bingo!
 
After telling them to check this on Tues they swore up and down that it was fine.
 
Now (2 days later) they say that the crank pulley/key/harmonic balancer is no good.  This is after looking into the cylinder head with a scope (they had wanted to pull the whole head!).
 
They are also saying that I need to new t-belt, etc ($600 in parts alone).
 
If not covered under my extended warranty why it will be on a flatbed to my mechanic's shop tomorrow.
 
So Mark replace that pulley!
 
Dave
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Eiche <seiche at shadetreesoftware.com>
To: hoog23 at aol.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:57:50 -0600
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Was Bad CPS - Now No Compression or Spark


By definition, #1 MUST be all the way up at Top Dead Center. If they didn't remove the crank pulley, then they do not know that the key has not sheared. I have seen this three times now with the EXACT same symptoms. One "Master Mechanic" even sent me the ECU (nothing wrong with it) after changing the cam sensor twice, and both flywheel sensors. He even told me that he had checked the timing and that it was right on. Guess what. It wasn't... 
 
I won't guarantee that this is the problem, but it sure fits the symptoms from here. 
 
hoog23 at aol.com wrote: 
 
> The service advisor said that they checked and there wasn't a key sheared. 
> > Also said that they checked the timing off the flywheel (which had a > very very faint mark) and that the piston was not totally all the way > up when it should be at TDS. Shouldn't this tell us that something is > wrong? 
> > Also the leak down test proved 'inconclusive.' 
> > I am so frustrated. I did not dare to ask how much $$ I am in for. > Not sure whether to cut my losses and still have car towed to my > independant mechanic. > > My only hope is that they find something that is covered under my > extended warranty and then negotiate with the extended warranty > company on the diagnostic time. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mark Strangways <Strangconst at rogers.com> 
> To: seiche at shadetreesoftware.com; hoog23 at aol.com; s-car-list at audifans.com 
> Sent: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:58:39 -0400 
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Was Bad CPS - Now No Compression or Spark 
> 
> Good call.. I would agree with that one. > If it was way off, or is still way off... you will have some bent valves. > BTDT, just not with a 20V engine. > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Eiche" > <seiche at shadetreesoftware.com <mailto:seiche%40shadetreesoftware.com>> > To: <hoog23 at aol.com <mailto:hoog23%40aol.com>>; > <s-car-list at audifans.com <mailto:s-car-list%40audifans.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Was Bad CPS - Now No Compression or Spark > > > Did the dealer check the engine timing? This sounds like a classic > case > of the key on the crankshaft pulley shearing. This allows the > engine to > get out of time. Depending upon how far it moved, you will > get a cam > position sensor fault code. > > > > Make sure that the check the engine timing with the flywheel mark > and the > camshaft sprocket, NOT the crank pulley. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > I did originally tell them to proceed after he swore up and down > that > there was no easy way to swap out the sender. BTW - 'Hall > Sendor' is Cam > Position Sensor, correct? > > > > Once I called him to tell him to stand down they were already into > the > job. > > > > I phoned him this morning with some suggestions as to the current > problems > (ecu fuse, belt jumped a few teeth, gas soaking the oil off > they cylinder > walls,etc) and he said the considered all of those and > they were going to > perform a leak down test. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List at audifans.com <mailto:S-CAR-List%40audifans.com> > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
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-- Steve Eiche 
Shade Tree Software, LLC 
http://www.shadetreesoftware.com http://www.prodiag-hd.com 
seiche at shadetreesoftware.com 
303.940.2468 
 
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