[s-cars] Pistons and Rods for the AAN

[calvinlc at earthlink.net]

In the American V-8 scene Eagle comes up quite often, as $7\800 for a set of
Carillo rods is a high price when the rest of the engine rebuild only costs
$2k to $3k.  So lots of people try them.  From what I have seen it seems to
be a quality control issue with Eagle.  When you have so many stories of
grenades and other stories like Javad's this is usually the case.

Just say NO to aluminum rods.  The heat cycles in normal street usage do
them in.  There is one manufacturer who claims to have an aluminum rod that
is some sort of alloy that is suited for the street but I haven't heard much
about it.

--Calvin


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of Emre Washburn
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:30 PM
To: djdawson2 at aol.com
Cc: bing93urs4 at gmail.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Pistons and Rods for the AAN


There are plenty of videos of Javad's 80tq getting beaten like red
headed stepchild at Laguna Seca, on more than one occasion. And on one
of those occasions, the stock tranny met it's maker and started to
leak it's life blood. That car is not a dyno/drag strip queen.

Pauter vs. Carillo vs. Eagle vs. etc... I'm not saying one is better
than the other. If I ever have a need for new rods, I'll probably go
Pauter. Only because I've talked with a few guys over there at length
about engine components, oiling theory, etc., and they sounded like
they know what's up. Plus, plenty of I5 guys are ruining their rods.

They were also nice enough to make a set of replacement rods for
Shokan's RS6, and they charged them the going rate for 8 rods, even
though they took on the project to develop them from only a stock rod.


--
Emre
92 //S4
90 Cq
40 valves 'O plenty!

On 3/21/06, djdawson2 at aol.com <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Keep in mind that Javad's car goes to the strip, and to the dyno... not
much
> else AFAIK.  No matter who makes them, aluminum rods are not intended to
run
> in a street application... and will not offer the durability most folks
are
> seeking.
>
> Pauter or Carillo are proven performers.  If you want lightweight, you
> should consider titanium over aluminum... IMO.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emre Washburn <yumyjager at gmail.com>
> To: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> Cc: Rich Palazzoli <bing93urs4 at gmail.com>; s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:02:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Pistons and Rods for the AAN
>
> I think many of us have "heard" about problems with Eagle/Eurospec
rods, but
> Javad is making well OVER 600 wheel horsepower in his 5
cylinder with Eagle
> rods, ruining almost 35+ PSI, up to 8,000 RPM.

That's enough to rest the
> fears that anyone may have from hearing
about seomone's brother's, friend's,
> cousin's, uncle's, boss's,
father's, best-friend's engine grenading with
> Eagle/Eurospec rods.

Rod's bend from bad software.


--
Emre
92 //S4
90
> Cq
40 valves 'O plenty!


On 3/21/06, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> If you want to build a strong engine, I would not use Eagle parts,
> just MHO.
>
> I've heard of too many problems with Eagle in high hp
> applications.
>
> Carillo would probably be my choice. I'm pretty sure you
> can do just 5 rods,
> but
> they're pricey- $1000 IIRC?
>
> Taka
>
>
> On
> 3/20/06, Rich Palazzoli <bing93urs4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Since my plan
> is 450+ whp I will need to upgrade the Pistons and
> > Rods.Looking for a
> source for each or both.JE is my first preferance for
> > pistons,Rods i
> will need to do a little more research on Crower,Manley,or
> > Eagle.Any
> BTDT with the rods ??? Manley will do $400 for a set of 5
> > aluminum
> >
> rods 1000+ hp max,BUT must order 40 rods total.....ANY takers on a Group
> >
> Buy?
> >
>
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