[s-cars] Carbon Fiber Cloth/Tape

Dave Kase davekase at pdqlocks.com
Sat May 6 01:13:10 EDT 2006


Sorry I am getting into this late, but what car are wwe talking about?   
I am importing CQ cf interior pieces from Hungary...

Dave Kase
'91 e//S2

Ian Duff wrote:

>Not that big a problem, as long as you don't mind the possibility of
>sacrificing your wood trim.
>
>To have the cf come out looking nice, you'll need to pull a female mold from
>the existing wood trim pieces. Not difficult, but sometimes the plug (the
>existing trim pieces) gets destroyed in the process. Not totally
>predictable, and much can be done to minimize the chances, but still a very
>real possibility. With the female mold from the old pieces, it's not all
>that difficult to make new cf pieces in the shape of the original. Then you
>just have to figure out how to mount the bling new pieces. 
>
>To make new bling cf gauge pods, you make a male plug out of something like
>a soft wood, sand and coat with something hard that you can get a nice shine
>on, that will hold wax, like a good enamel (not polyurethane, won't hold the
>wax), wax it like you stole it, make a female mold on it, pull the male plug
>out, and make yourself a new bling cf gauge pod in your new mold.
>
>Post pictures of this stuff on Audiworld, and you'll have a bunch of
>wannabes bowing down to you.
>
>The biggest tricks here are making sure the molds release from the plugs,
>and the parts release from the molds, as well as making sure you have no dry
>spots in the cf, as dry spots look gauche. Mold release is a function of two
>thing, one is draft, where the dry part can come out without it being locked
>in by virtue of its shape (think of a keystone, comes out easy one way,
>doesn't come out the other way), the other is release agents, such as wax.
>The easy way to avoid dry spots is soak the living piss out of the cf as you
>laminate it, as we're not all that concerned about strength to weight in
>cosmetic pieces such as these. If you really want to go overboard, you could
>vacuum bag the cf as you go, which will help with the resin saturation, as
>well as the bragging rights. BTW, use West epoxy, as its readily available,
>and is known to work with CF. Polyester will not work.
>
>Nothing remotely approaching either brain surgery or rocket science here.
>HTH.
>
>-Ian.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pollan
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 14:59
>To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Carbon Fiber Cloth/Tape
>
>I really dunno Ian.  Just thinking of perhaps adding another item to my
>1,000,001 item to-do list.  For example, can one with limited skills make
>their wood trim into CF and have it look real nice?  Or perhaps make a CF
>gauge pod to fit down by the ashtray in the center vent or...
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ian Duff [mailto:iduff at comcast.net]
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:30 PM
>To: 'Mark Pollan'; s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: RE: [s-cars] Carbon Fiber Cloth/Tape
>
>I have a fair amount of composite experience, having been a boatbuilder for
>years. What do you need to do or know? 
>-Ian Duff.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pollan
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:43
>To: s-car-list at audifans.com
>Subject: [s-cars] Carbon Fiber Cloth/Tape
>
>Anybody out there actually play with carbon fiber either from a structural
>perspective and/or a cosmetic (read trim) perspective?
>www.jamestowndistributors.com <http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/>  has
>carbon fiber cloth and tape as well as Kevlar tape.
>
> 
>
>Regards,
>
> 
>
>Mark
>
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