[s-cars] Interesting read on HID conversions

djdawson2 at aol.com djdawson2 at aol.com
Mon Nov 27 23:02:43 EST 2006


Well... it seems you read the whole thing.  I didn't post it to make the statement that going the HID route was necessarily "wrong" (I've bought 2 sets myself), but to post what I thought was an interesting take on the subject.
 
To me, the interesting point was the additional light provided by HIDs directly in front of the car can give the *impression* of dramatically improved lighting, while in actuality creating a potentially less safe scenario... eyes adapting to that near-light intensity, and thus loosing some level of visibility further down the road.
 
I'm probably more "headlight critical"  than most, as I spend a lot of time driving in the middle of nowhere... nothing but me, my car, my headlights, and a bazillion animals just itching to total my car.
 
Mr Stern's comments about an optimal halogen setup providing the best solution kind of rang true for me.  Best headlights I've ever had (and still have) are the euro spec lights for the old type 44.  Those lights, relayed and using an 80/100 H4 with a 100 H1... wow, I've personally never seen anything better, HID or otherwise.
 
Honestly, I just read his info and it made sense.  Of course, his input is based on science not myth.  And we all know facts aren't always popular.
 
Dave
 
 
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Subject: Re: [s-cars] Interesting read on HID conversions


I agree with most everything Daniel Stern writes about HID.  The near  
road "bloom" from lighting up the road too close to the vehicle can be
distracting at first, but many of us older folks need the light to  
see things even that close.  And, who said illegal?  I understand  
they are not
DOT approved for highway use, but that is different from illegal (a  
little bit ).  DOT approved 200/20v lights are a whole lot more  
dangerous,
and the euro replacement  lacks DOT endorsement as well.  So do the  
euro replacement lens for the s-car lights that fixes that sand-
blasted OEM glass problem.  Just about anything you change on the OEM  
lighting will only meet DOT approval with a $3-500K demonstration
program, so welcome to the outlaw world.

Daniel Stern glosses over the fact that projector lights control the  
HID output pretty well, and put the light on the road where is is  
supposed to
be about as well as any system if the owner adjusts the lights to the  
vehicle manufacturers or Hella specifications.  The only short-coming
I see is not having bi-zenon projectors for the high-beam.

Tom


> Dave Dawson wrote:

> Good info if you read the whole thing... not to mention these kits  
> are illegal.  Question is, why are sales of such illegal kits  
> allowed to continue?
>
> http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/ 
> conversions.html
>
> Dave



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