[s-cars] V12 TDI Q7

Lee Levitt lee at wheelman.com
Tue Sep 12 17:00:01 EDT 2006


Naw. They're still BMWs.

:)

Lee



On Tue Sep 12 13:51:13 PDT 2006, Chris Palmer 
<ca_palmer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Well, the BMW 325xi, 328xi, 330xi, 525xi and 530xi are all AWD
> with 6-speed manuals and power from 215hp to 255hp.
> Rather tempting?
> 
> Chris Palmer
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>
>> To: Postupack, Jeff <Jeff.Postupack at analog.com>
>> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
>> Date: 9/12/2006 4:29:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] V12 TDI Q7
>> 
>> Exactly, Jeff-
>> I don't know what to move on to- the logical progression in the 
>> Audi
> lineup
>> would
>> be to get a C5 chassis A6 2.7T 6-speed.
>> 
>> Since BMW is pretty much the only company to offer a mid-sized 
>> car with a
>> manual
>> transmission and high performance (albeit in RWD form only), 
>> there really
>> isn't
>> much other choice.
>> 
>> The Volvos are not dynamically very good, I'm wondering if the 
>> next
>> generation R will
>> fix that- they keep getting better. I just hope they don't get 
>> any heavier
>> and that the next
>> generation will have an automatic that won't blow up if you run 
>> full power
>> through it.
>> 
>> Mercedes is unbelievably unreliable now, so they're totally out.
> Otherwise,
>> the current
>> W211 E-Class is a very nice car. Even an E350 4Matic wagon 
>> wouldn't be all
>> that bad
>> if they figured out how to build them right.
>> 
>> The Q7 is way too big and Audi service is about as bad as it can 
>> be.
>> 
>> 
>> Taka
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/12/06, Postupack, Jeff <Jeff.Postupack at analog.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah I am IMpatiently waiting for a reasonable TDI from Audi.
>> > Where as a V12 Q7 is a great marketing project and gets you 
>> write-ups
>> > with the Car mags, it's
>> > Freakin' excessive.  Total ownership cost will be high for the
>> > mainstream buyers.
>> >
>> > Audi could clean up nicely with the R10 notoriety and a V8 TDI 
>> for
>> > C-sakes.
>> >
>> > I am really curious to see how this S car list matures and 
>> more and more
>> > guys sell out of the C4 chassis
>> > And index on to what?
>> >
>> > At S Fest I heard a lot of talk about P cars and Bimmers.
>> >
>> > Whattaya think about Porsche Cayennes?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the link Taka>
>> >
>> > JP
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Taka  writes
>> >
>> > "So it looks like Audi will have a V12 TDI Q7 soon.
>> >
>> > http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_2535.shtml
>> >
>> > I don't know if this is silly, but they don't offer a 
>> reasonable TDI car
>> > in the States, which is a real shame, but they develop stuff 
>> like this.
>> > With BMW coming out with diesels in the near future, not 
>> having anything
>> > to compare is going to hurt Audi.
>> >
>> > In a few years, when the V70R gets retired, it would be nice 
>> to be able
>> > to find a selection of turbodiesel AWD wagons with enough 
>> power to make
>> > them fun to drive, with a better dynamic than the rather 
>> sloppy Volvo.
>> > Something sized about the size of the new Passat wagon (in 
>> between A4
>> > Avant and A6 Avant sizes), with about 300hp, quattro (no 
>> Haldex, at
>> > least not the way it's implemented now), good gas mileage, 
>> awesome
>> > interior and exterior and most importantly, good service."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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