[s-cars] 959

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I understand that the awd systems in both PSK and PDK are identical (and  
actually audi derived), and that the differences are in the actual transmission  
(specifically:  Clutch) application.  Specifically, the PSK was a  traditional 
6speed transmission with clutch, and the PDK was the clutchless  6 speed.  
Yes (audi content) the PDK was used in a couple S1 cars, though  only the Pikes 
Peak car actually raced and won with it, the rest were test  fitments IIRC.   
Getting more nerdy, the 84 911 Carrera 4x4 (959  prototype) was referred to as 
a 963, and all 3 years of P-D 959 used PSK  traditional 6speeds, 1985 and 
1986 used the variable torque split version.
 
I understand the PDK was used in the 962 race (tarmac car) first, and also  
used in a couple S1 Evo II's.  Technically speaking Rob, all SQ's  were FIA 
homoged as S1's.  The bewinged S1 Evo II usually sported the SMS  6speed rally 
trans, but a couple chassis were tested with the PDK.
 
Scott
 
 
In a message dated 4/11/2007 11:30:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jenrob at mchsi.com writes:
to jump in and clarify- wait for the audi  content..... i believe the trans 
in the 911/ 959 racer and later the type  964 lightweight was the " Paris/ 
Dakar " adjustable torque split trans- not  to be confused with the PDK ( 
Porsche double clutch) used in the 956 group C  car, and adapted to the 
monster 1985 Sport Quattro E2.  see there is  real audi content. -rob

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Sent:  Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] 959


>  The 959 was to be the group B from porsche.  Problem too heavy to   compete
> with audi/renault/ford.  They chose P-D for their theatre  of  war....  All 
> were
> really 959's, the first two  years of 3 competing they  were development 
> mules
> at  P-D
>
> 1984 - 911 Carrera 4x4, 959 without the  variable  torque PDK and 959
> bodywork.  Took 1st and 2nd
> 1985 - 959  but  without twin turbos used 3.2 Carrera motor at 230hp.  DNF  
> 3
> cars
> 1986 -  959 full battle regalia at 400hp  (gas quality detuned).  1st, 2nd 
> and
> 5th.  IIRC, the  service car would have placed 3rd.
>
> Reference:   World  of Rally series....
> Scott J
>
>
> In a message dated  4/11/2007  7:58:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> t44tqtro at gmail.com  writes:
> Paris-Dakar  was done by the 911, exactly which variant I'm  not sure.
>
> It was also done  by the precursor to the 959  (the car you're talking 
> about-
> more 911-like  bodywork,  turbo and AWD) and the 959 itself.
>
> 961 is the roadgoing  version  of the 959 designed for Le Mans competition.
>
>  You're not going to make me  pull out the huge 3-volume bible, are you?  
> :-)
>
> Taka
 



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