[s-cars] Gelling coolant

Pasqualoni, James E james.pasqualoni at gs.com
Tue Apr 17 13:20:19 EDT 2007


Gisli,

I am late to this thread, so please excuse me if this has already been mentioned-are you sure there is no oil in the coolant, ie head gasket leakage? 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Gísli Óttarsson
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:18 PM
To: Tom Green
Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant

Tom:

I nearly responded to your previous message about de-mineralized water by commenting that that is what comes out of our cold-water taps here in Iceland.  No such luck for the hot-water tap.  This is so polluted by minerals and sulfur that you would think someone let eggs rot in your bathroom.  Good for the teeth and the sperm-count, I suppose, but I would not dream of letting it anywhere near my Audi.  And no, the car only recently arrived on Icelandic shores so it is a near certainty that this is not what's ailing the cooling system.

Gisli

On 4/17/07, Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I think your caution is don't shock the engine by removing the coolant 
> and/or giving it a big dose of cold water.  But, it doesn't require a 
> long cool-down period before draining since the temps are equalized by 
> running at idle.  I would be cautious about dumping a lot of cold 
> water from a hose with lots of pressure and flow into the reservoir.  
> Besides, you are likely to cause the thermostat to close and really 
> slow down the process.  Use some warm water to temper the water if you 
> are nervous about it.  Add slowly in any case, you won't use that much 
> per flush.  I would suggest using some of that Icelandic geo-thermal
> water but I've seen the mineral content.  :-)   Hmmmm, could that be
> what's in the coolant now?  :-)
>
> Tom
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:20 -0400
> > From: Mark Pollan <mark.pollan at verizonbusiness.com>
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
> > To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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> > Best/required to let her cool down before you drain and refill no?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> > [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of G?sli 
> > ?ttarsson
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:13 PM
> > To: Tom Green
> > Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
> >
> > This seems straightforward enough.  I'll probably have a go this 
> > week-end, if weather permits.
> >
> > Gisli
> >
> > On 4/16/07, Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll have to defer to Dave Dawson on the details, but, you have the 
> >> right idea, and the Finish should be fine. This is dishwasher 
> >> detergent, not the dishwashing detergent for hand-washing dishes.
> >>   I suggest about a half cup or two times the normal dishwasher 
> >> amount.  Drain the coolant first and refill with water and add the 
> >> Finish.
> >> You don't want to operate the car, just run the engine until it 
> >> gets up to temperature, then about 15 to 20 minutes at idle to let 
> >> the cleaners work in the system including the heater.  Then drain 
> >> and refill with water, bring to temperature, drain and repeat until 
> >> the coolant water is perfectly clear.  It may take several times to 
> >> remove all the old
> >> coolant and the dishwasher detergent.   Even the low sudsing
> >> dishwasher detergent
> >> can foam some, so it is important to completely flush all traces 
> >> from the cooling system or a slight amount of foam can cause an air 
> >> block in the system and a localized over- heating can occur.  Who 
> >> knows if it is compatible with coolant?
> >> I suspect those fleet maintenance guys have a power flushing 
> >> machine to expedite this process.
> >> It is a good practice to use de-mineralized (soft) water for the
> >> make-
> >> up portion of the
> >> coolant.
>
>
>
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