[s-cars] Mmmm, shifty business...
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QSHIPQ at aol.com
Fri Apr 20 12:35:15 EDT 2007
Taka
I believe that you find the goodness of the machine, and that a manual
trans can make some machines better, but many times it doesn't do a thing, and
more often (these) days, a manual can take away from the goodness of the
machine.
I use weight as my main argument, because manual shifting causes weight
shifting. When you have a heavy luxurious sports sedan, shifting can redefine
luxurious and sport. As a former Saab salesman when the SPG and the 9000t came
about, I agree with David E that the 9000t auto was a monster. There is a
lot less wastegate and bypass valve intervention on a auto turbo, the torque
converter becomes the bypass vavle, read no lag between shifts. The 9000t
auto did a great job of banging the turbo at full tilt into the next gear.
Racing the manual against the autobox wasn't even close. Maybe with a drop
clutch burnout, but not in any comparo you would do to your own car.
It's your preference Taka, that's all, and I can respect that. I also
understand that there is a long list of cars I could take in a autobox, a long
list in a manual, and a short list I could take in either. I believe that is
because the trans defines the character of the car. If it's 'out of
character', it loses it's appeal.
I've learned to respect the choice by some of the manufacturers to recognize
that as well.
cheers
SJ
In a message dated 4/20/2007 10:17:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,
t44tqtro at gmail.com writes:
I've driven a Roush 360R, Corvette Z06 and Audi RS6- all of those cars have
tons and tons of torque and
there is no way I'd take an automatic in any of them.
How much torque does a blown TLC make?
I disagree with David E Davis as well, then. Anyway, that's a terrible
point- Saab 9000 Turbo with a slushbox? Yuck.
Something like a Bentley Turbo R, Arnage, MBZ S600, that's where a slushbox
might not be really annoying- something that you're going to drive rather
sedately and has such immense power reserves that you don't need to
downshift hardly ever. However, change that to a MBZ E63 and I'd still want
a decent manual transmission over a superlative autobox (and I like MBZ
slushboxes as far as automatics go).
Taka
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